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N.Y. Drops Citizenship Proof For Driver's Licenses [Should Cut Down Unlicensed Illegal Immigrants]
WCBSTV ^

Posted on 09/21/2007 5:38:17 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

N.Y. Drops Citizenship Proof For Driver's Licenses Move Should Cut Down Unlicensed Illegal Immigrants

Andrew Kirtzman Reporting

(CBS) NEW YORK They were celebrating outside the governor's office Friday as Eliot Spitzer handed a landmark victory to a half-million illegal immigrants.

The state will no longer require proof of citizenship for driver's licenses.

"We're changing our policy with respect to getting more people out of shadows and into the system so people don't hide they're here," Spitzer said.

He said the current restrictions on non-citizens have filled the roads with unlicensed drivers five times more likely to get into accidents.

But the also called it a matter of justice.

"As long as I'm governor we won't pretend they don't exist, cut them off from society," Spitzer said.

But the action triggered a bitter response from some 9/11 family members, who said the governor would be providing identification for potential terrorists.

And a Brooklyn state senator says he'll try to overturn the decision.

"This governor has chosen to give the keys to the city, the keys to the state to terrorism," Golden said.

As for the public, it's clear that people have strong feelings on both sides of the issue.

"I don’t think if you're here illegally you should have the same privileges people who are here legally do," office manager Cliff Hoffman said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcbstv.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; driverslicenses; eliotspitzer; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; pandering; shamnesty; spitzer; stealthamnesty
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Don't credit Spitzer for simply being a moron ~ he's an actual terrorist. He knows what this will do and that's exactly what he intends.

It's time for some responsible person to take the Governor off to the pokey pending the outcome of the conflict with the Islamofascist enemy.

21 posted on 09/21/2007 6:14:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kid Shelleen
Nope. Mandatory insurance and then you will suddenly need un-insured motorist additional coverage Just like here in Texas... the illegals are not going to buy insurance.

It's not part of their "culture."

22 posted on 09/21/2007 6:17:26 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Sub-Driver

Do you need a social security # to get a NY license?


23 posted on 09/21/2007 6:17:31 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Sub-Driver
who cares about voting. new york will elect a republican especially for president.

i just cant wait for the inevitable rise in DWI-related deaths when these people can actually drive legally. right now, no license is one of the only things stopping them from driving. but with a real license, watch out for that speeding el camino!

24 posted on 09/21/2007 6:17:41 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: jmyrlefuller

Next the governor will send them all down to Virginia to buy guns - the conspiracy continues.


25 posted on 09/21/2007 6:19:15 PM PDT by satan
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To: Sub-Driver
"We're changing our policy with respect to getting more people out of shadows and into the system so people don't hide they're here," Spitzer said.

A general amnesty for bank robbers would be another way to get some folks out of the shadows.

ML/NJ

26 posted on 09/21/2007 6:19:40 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: umgud
no. a SS# may be used to get the correct number of "points" needed to establish who you are and get a license.

a passport and SS card give you the most number of points, but other id's work as well. i'll check it out, but you actually may need one or the other (passport or SS card). not sure. birth certificate is big too.

27 posted on 09/21/2007 6:20:29 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: Sub-Driver
When I heard this story, I was shocked. This does not even seem possible in liberal New York. Recently, SPIT-man wanted homo marriage but it was stopped by the state senate. Hopefully, someone will stop this nonsense.

I wonder if the new AG that bush appointed is in with SPITTY; if so, he will most likely side with spit on this.

28 posted on 09/21/2007 6:21:22 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
"Somebody help us."

Liberalism gone AMOK! I feel exactly as you...SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE IT STOP! BTW the USA is quickly resembling the last days of the Roman Empire. God help us and our children.

29 posted on 09/21/2007 6:26:16 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Sub-Driver

A lot of you people call Arnold a RINO but at least he vetoed the same bill the Socialists tried to get passed in this state.


30 posted on 09/21/2007 6:26:34 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Sub-Driver

Illegals will be voting in NY in no time. Actually their probably voting now. For a state that saw close to 3,000 murdered on 9/11, its hard to believe how quick they’ve forgotten. The RATS are more dangerous to this country than Al-Qaeda.


31 posted on 09/21/2007 6:27:40 PM PDT by kenmcg
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To: umgud
i checked. you either need a SS# or a letter from some federal agency detailing that you are not eligible for a SS#.

not sure what that means.

you need proof of date of birth. here is the link to where i found this info. with thsi new rule, however, the rules might be changing:

http://www.nysdmv.com/idlicense.htm

32 posted on 09/21/2007 6:27:55 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: kenmcg

Oh, they didn’t forget. They just never cared in the first place but played along.

Where was Spitzer during 9/11? Nowhere to be found. You’d think that him being the AG and this being one of the biggest criminal acts in New York history he’d at least be pushing for whatever charges he could find. Nope. All he did was eyeball the corporations.


33 posted on 09/21/2007 6:30:46 PM PDT by jmyrlefuller ("a steady drumbeat of clever, witty, observant posts throughout the morning" - Bahbah)
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To: Sub-Driver

No they aren’t kidding. Things are sick and getting sicker here in N.Y. every day. There’s a MT. Kisco N.Y. cop on trial for manslaughter because he gave a homeless, alcoholic, illegal alien, who had been arrested over 60 times, a ride out of town. He was becoming a nuisance by calling 911 repeatedly for no apparent reason. The alien was found a short time later on the side of the road unconscious. He was rushed to a local hospital where he died a short time later. His blood alcohol content was almost 4 times the legal limit for driving in the state. Route 100 in Somers N.Y. now has flashing signs in Spanish telling Spanish speaking people that it’s dangerous to pass on the right. I didn’t know what it said and almost crashed. I guess it’s my fault I speak English.


34 posted on 09/21/2007 6:30:55 PM PDT by Wiggins
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To: Sub-Driver

Motor Voter?


35 posted on 09/21/2007 6:31:47 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: thefactor
It’s happening now here. They are killing our residents and nobody cares. The moonbats here feel sorry for them while we die.
36 posted on 09/21/2007 6:36:12 PM PDT by Wiggins
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To: umgud

Yes, you need a SSN to get a license in NY. They started requiring it about a decade ago to go after dead-beat dads. DMV then started to match the SSNs against the SSA to make sure that the number matched the name on file. Those licenses that didn’t were immediately revoked.


37 posted on 09/21/2007 6:36:59 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (Fred Thompson in '08)
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To: Sub-Driver

The power of the illegal alien lobby never ceases to amaze


38 posted on 09/21/2007 6:37:59 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

see post #32. you do not necessarily need a SS# to get a license in NYS. there is an exception.


39 posted on 09/21/2007 6:40:30 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: neverdem

Ping of interest.


40 posted on 09/21/2007 7:15:27 PM PDT by jmyrlefuller ("a steady drumbeat of clever, witty, observant posts throughout the morning" - Bahbah)
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