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Rudy Looking Dangerously Presidential ... (he makes Bill Clinton look stable)
Human Events ^ | 09/19/2007 | Doug Patton

Posted on 09/19/2007 4:26:24 AM PDT by IrishMike

Early in my career as a political speechwriter, a young but wise campaign manager explained why candidates from the same party too often tear each other to pieces in the primaries. He told me that when all the candidates of your party are shooting at the probable opponent from the other party, your frontrunner is going to get shot in the back. I thought of that analogy the other day as I read about Rudy Giuliani’s potent political attacks on Hillary Clinton.

Clinton, the frontrunner for the Democrats’ presidential nomination, stuck George Soros’ giant left foot in her mouth attempting to do the bidding of MoveOn.org. For the entire world to see, Hillary decided that a Senate committee hearing would be a good place to call a decorated war hero, Gen. David Petraeus, commander of American forces in Iraq, a liar. Parroting the same extremist nonsense that is rapidly making the folks at MoveOn the leading leftist nutters of the blogosphere, Hillary’s comments landed with a clank in most parts of America, most notably at the Giuliani for President Campaign headquarters.

The previous week, the folks running the nation’s premiere agenda-driven newspaper, The New York Times, embarrassed themselves by substantially discounting the now-infamous, full-page, MoveOn ad calling Gen. Petraeus “Gen. Betray Us.” Apparently, The Times management doesn’t realize that George Soros can afford the full rate.

Adding to their heartburn was former New York City Mayor and Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, who demanded and got the same $65,000 rate for what normally would be $165,000 worth of ad space. (Can you imagine anyone ever again paying the full rate for a full-page ad after this fiasco?) Rudy used the opportunity to excoriate Hillary for her cowardly submission to the anti-war Left and asked America who they trusted more, the senator or the general.

Rather than firing back at his opponents, Rudy is focusing on his likely Democrat challenger. Instead of answering the attacks of Mitt Romney and others in his party who are running behind him in the polls, Giuliani is acting as if he is already the Republican nominee.

Let me say again that even though Giuliani is tough on crime and terrorism, I don’t like his domestic agenda at all. As a pro-life, pro-family, pro-traditional marriage, pro-Second Amendment Republican, I find him far too liberal on most social issues. As my son said to me recently, “Rudy Giuliani is a just Democrat who’s willing to blow stuff up.”

I also find Giuliani’s personal life to be downright offensive. In some ways, he makes Bill Clinton look stable. At least Clinton never had Monica Lewinsky move into the White House and openly live with him like then-Mayor Giuliani did when he had his girlfriend (now his wife) move into Gracie Mansion while he was still married to the mother of his children.

Having said all that, going after Hillary Clinton is a brilliant strategy. It makes Rudy look presidential. It makes his GOP opponents look small when they attack him. And it creates its own momentum. The more Giuliani acts like the heir apparent to the Republican nomination, the more voters will become comfortable with him.

Those of us who were looking to Fred Thompson as the fiscal and social conservative who could wrestle the GOP mantle away from hizzonor are becoming increasingly alarmed by the efficiency of the Giuliani campaign. As I wrote a few months ago, just as Democrats must find a way to turn red states blue, the converse is also true, and Rudy could change the color of the map radically. Consider the electoral vote-rich states that could fall into the GOP column with Giuliani as the nominee: California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and, of course, New York. That’s a strong temptation to many Republicans who simply want to win.

Giuliani is leading in most polls largely due to his record as a tough mayor who cleaned up America’s biggest, dirtiest city and because of his leadership in the aftermath of 9/11. The war against Islamist fanaticism demands an alternative to Hillary Clinton. Rudy Giuliani firmly believes he is that alternative. An alarming number of Republicans seem to agree with him.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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Rudy fans ain't going to like this one.

Rudy learned politics in NYC, where dRATS have something like 80% of the registered voters - and he won twice. No small feat.

He can campaign, and he is taking dRATS, especially the HildaBeast to the wood shed.

1 posted on 09/19/2007 4:26:26 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Like it or not, the GOP should get behind Rudy 100% irrespective of what the wider spectrum of Conservatism thinks, irrespective of the finer points, irrespective of everything else.

Rudy is electable.

Unless this happens, get used to a HillBilly White House, for eight years. Get used to Barbra Streisand screeching “O Say Can You See...” Get used to it.


2 posted on 09/19/2007 4:34:53 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: IrishMike
Why won’t Rudy fans like this?

This is what the article says:
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Those of us who were looking to Fred Thompson as the fiscal and social conservative who could wrestle the GOP mantle away from hizzonor are becoming increasingly alarmed by the efficiency of the Giuliani campaign. As I wrote a few months ago, just as Democrats must find a way to turn red states blue, the converse is also true, and Rudy could change the color of the map radically. Consider the electoral vote-rich states that could fall into the GOP column with Giuliani as the nominee: California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and, of course, New York. That’s a strong temptation to many Republicans who simply want to win.

Giuliani is leading in most polls largely due to his record as a tough mayor who cleaned up America’s biggest, dirtiest city and because of his leadership in the aftermath of 9/11. The war against Islamist fanaticism demands an alternative to Hillary Clinton. Rudy Giuliani firmly believes he is that alternative. An alarming number of Republicans seem to agree with him.
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This then is the key. Turning Blue States Red. Rudy appears to have the ability to do this and it is the key to WINNING.

3 posted on 09/19/2007 4:35:41 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Eagles Talon IV

Thompson-Guiliani or Guiliani-Thompson, if it were to happen might be the best chance we have of preventing a democrat from sitting behind the desk in the Oval office.


4 posted on 09/19/2007 4:38:19 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: IrishMike
why candidates from the same party too often tear each other to pieces in the primaries.
I see more of that in the Democrat primary than the GOP primary.
It seems to me that most of the attacks are coming from the media, and FReepers are falling for it hook, line, and sinker.

Rudy learned politics in NYC, where dRATS have something like 80% of the registered voters - and he won twice. No small feat.
Well if you recall, Rudy won his first term directly as a result of the Non-Fat Yogurt scandal of ‘93.

Anyways, Mitt Romney won in a state that went for John Kerry by nearly 62%, and was the only state in the Union to vote for George McGovern. So the same can be said of him. So why the double standard here on FR?

 
5 posted on 09/19/2007 4:40:22 AM PDT by counterpunch (Ron Paul is gearing up to be Hillary Clinton's Ross Perot.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

What about turning red-states blue when the Republican base takes a walk?


6 posted on 09/19/2007 4:41:10 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei (Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.)
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To: IrishMike
Rudy learned politics in NYC, where dRATS have something like 80% of the registered voters - and he won twice.

And then he ran for Senate against the Hildabeast. The sitting mayor of NYC couldn't outpoll a carpetbagger. So much for his broader appeal.

7 posted on 09/19/2007 4:41:37 AM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Bain sult as do thuras


8 posted on 09/19/2007 4:42:03 AM PDT by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Like it or not, the GOP should get behind Rudy 100% irrespective of what the wider spectrum of Conservatism thinks

Easy for a non-conservative such as yourself to say.

9 posted on 09/19/2007 4:42:17 AM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Thompson-Guiliani or Guiliani-Thompson...

That would yield an executive branch with multiple-personality disorder.

I can't imagine ever voting for Rudy. I'm an issues voter, and the 2nd Amendment is non-negotiable.

10 posted on 09/19/2007 4:43:37 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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...when the Republican base takes a walk?

And it's already looking for the door.

11 posted on 09/19/2007 4:45:22 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Yes...I am in a quandry. Thompson-Guillani choice is a tough one. I will take any republican who can make sure Hillary is not our next president. I prefer what I hear from Thompson but think Guillani would be more likely to beat the dems.


12 posted on 09/19/2007 4:46:19 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Why? The GOP leadership hasn’t exactly repaid my loyalty in the past.


13 posted on 09/19/2007 4:46:27 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: dirtboy

That’s not fair, using facts and all.


14 posted on 09/19/2007 4:46:40 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: IrishMike

> Bain sult as do thuras

Likewise, mate. Be encouraged!


15 posted on 09/19/2007 4:46:55 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: IrishMike
You're right. He is beginning to look presidential:

Rudy Giuliani

"Does this shade of lipstick make my butt look too big?"

16 posted on 09/19/2007 4:47:30 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: IrishMike
WILL FR EMBRACE SOCIALISM TO MAKE WAY FOR A RUDY GIULIANI PRESIDENCY?
17 posted on 09/19/2007 4:48:06 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: IrishMike
Rush said prior to the 2006 elections, if conservatives sit on their a$$(paraphrasing)& the democrats win majority then you can expect to see a McCain/Rudy type of candidate. Here you go.

As much as I think I operate on principle, I am also a realist, if it comes down to Hillary or Rudy, I am walking over broken glass to vote for the man.

18 posted on 09/19/2007 4:48:10 AM PDT by GWB00 (Barbara Streisand barely made it out of high school.)
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To: counterpunch
I see more of that in the Democrat primary than the GOP primary.
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My reading of the article implies this is the dRAT candidates bickering amongst themselves, while Rudy is taking head shots directly at the HildaBeast her self.
(NY Times article etc etc)
I’m seeing just today where an Edwards staffer ‘suggests’ the Beasts campaign finances are corrupt.
The dRATS seem to be turning on each other, trying to out liberal each other.

19 posted on 09/19/2007 4:49:13 AM PDT by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Consider the electoral vote-rich states that could fall into the GOP column with Giuliani as the nominee: California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and, of course, New York. That’s a strong temptation to many Republicans who simply want to win.

Dream on buddy, it'll never happen. Conservatives will vote 3rd party & liberals in those states will just vote for the Dim.

20 posted on 09/19/2007 4:49:43 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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