Posted on 09/02/2007 3:41:26 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
As the vote tallies were announced at the Texas Republican straw poll Saturday, at least one supporter of Rep. Ron Paul of Lake Jackson couldn't contain his frustration.
"Fix!" he yelled from the back of the ballroom at the Fort Worth Convention Center. "There's no way."
The congressman put a great deal of effort into the event in his home state, even paying to bus in supporters. They seemed to be the largest force in town. So it was a disappointment to those supporters when he came in third.
Some were convinced that Dr. Paul won.
"The results are totally wrong," said Jason Scarbrough, a Paul supporter who lives near Houston. "There were 10 times as many Ron Paul supporters here than anyone else had. There's just no way."
Though there were clearly more Paul people at the straw poll event, the congressman with the libertarian leanings had a much smaller base of support among those who could vote.
Even Dr. Paul conceded that he didn't think he could win.
"They made it very restrictive," Dr. Paul said at a rally Friday night. "But we're trying to build the party. If they want us to build the party, we can."
Saturday's vote disappointed Kathy Massey, a 45-year-old Houston woman who works in the petroleum industry.
She described Dr. Paul as a man of integrity who wants the Bill of Rights restored and a political titan.
"Las Vegas oddsmakers say he's the only one who can beat" Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, Ms. Massey said, without offering proof.
(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...
Even better find a copy of the first debate and you will hear it from his own mouth with no spin
I personally dismiss them because I saw the tactics of Paul supporters at my own GOP straw poll, where they bussed in people from out of the county.
That Paul fellar raked in $102,000 at a fundraiser in Dallas Fri night so all in all he didn’t do that bad this weekend. I’m surprised he finish as high as 3rd place with the criteria that was set for voting delegates.....
Some of the Paulette delegates are crying foul....... link here:
Ron Paul Delegates Turned Away from Straw Poll? Can You Confirm?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890199/posts
See my post # 57
I find it just awful that the rules for Ron Paul were more restrictive than the other candidates.
I find it just awful that the rules for Ron Paul were more restrictive than the other candidates.
Don’t ever believe aNY OF THE CRAP you read
about elections, when Clintons are involved...they are
very tricky and operate without any ethics, or concern
for why they put some hurt on anyone in their way..
in other words..they, and their cutthroat advisors, will
do anything, say anything, kill anyhing in their way..and
they have a gullible, cooperating press to add to the
mix....don’t ever forget it????????????? JK
“...thanks to a biased article that only focused on a few nutjobs to portray the Paul campaign as a whole as driven by them.”
I attended the Iowa Straw Poll in Ames and that pretty much described the vast majority of his (most likely) out of state supporters. Attendees of the straw poll were accosted by Paul supporters all day long. I could hardly walk 25 feet without another Paul nutjob trying to shove another “fact sheet” on Paul. One kook spoke to our group, expounding on how he had just heard of Paul the week before and jumped on his bandwagon. Lot of thought put into that decision I’m sure. Another thing that I found off-putting was the music blaring from Ron Paul’s tent. We heard Darryl Worley’s “Have You Forgotten,” coming out of his tent. How ironic, since that song supports our troops and the fight that we have had to engage in, when Ron Paul blames America and opposes the war. So, yeah. I think we’re talking a LOT more than just a few nutjobs.
Wouldn’t it actually have to be a lie?
Ok ok so praying for the president of the United States and our military makes one a butt kisser....well then bend over Mr. President I have a gift for you.......
Sorry I was being sarcastic.
Paul said the rules were very restrictive and his supporters said the fix was in, so I said, “it was awful the rules were more restrictive for Paul than the other candidates”.
Sorry I was being sarcastic.
A brief quote from this summary is as follows:
Kirk sees libertarians as radical doctrinaires, contemptuous of tradition, culture and faith. Of societys old traditions and prescriptions they would retain only private property. Libertarians also seek an abstract liberty that has never existed. Contrary to the unlimited liberty theory of economics, the American economy is complex and requires government to enforce contracts and so forth. Government, then, is an economic necessity. Complete freedom from government of any kind would result in complete chaos.Our Constitution was conceived and written by an aristocratic body who sought a more perfect union. They knew, like Dostoevsky, that unlimited freedom ends with unlimited despotism. Kirk sees libertarians arguments as humorless, intolerant, self-righteous, badly schooled and dull. A specific quote is:
..The libertarians are rejected because they are metaphysically mad.Lunacy repels and political lunacy especially. I do not mean they are dangerous; nay, they are repellant merely. They do not endanger our country and our civilization, because they are few, and seem likely to become fewer
What Kirk means by metaphysically mad is that libertarians refuse to consider any question not answerable by direct observation or science; no religion, no prime mover, nothing of a spiritual nature. As such they are mad ignoring common human emotions and experience.
Is it any wonder believers reject libertarianism? Is it any mystery why Ron Paul does not sell to the masses?
Ron Paul is the Jane Fonda of the Republican Party.
Iowans traditionally don’t go for kooks. Now, Wisconsin has a long history of backing kooks on both sides of the political spectrum. I’d expect Ron Paul to do well there.
Most of us enjoy these threads for comic relief and you never disappoint. Have you decided who your going to support after he gets his 3%?
One thing you will never have to do is support a President.
Pray for W and Our Troops
I believe you owe Jane Fonda an apology.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Exactly what party is he trying to build?
3/4 of his bussed supporters were Dem Disrupters just like here.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Ron Paul is a RINO but in a different way. He’s actually a Libertarian; he ran as such and didn’t rule out that heâd do it again. He waffled and said something about not having the resources. He’s not to be trusted. People who’d support him are looking for a Conservative Jimmy Carter. They are living a dream of returning to the days of 1930s isolationism, even if Ron Paul calls it noninterference or some other such gobbledygook claptrap. The man is very naive and willing to get in bed with some very odd ducks. By not disavowing them he collects their support. See www.outlawjournalism.com for instance. Plus, the skinheads, Nazis, Holocaust deniers, the 9/11 truthers, the Isolationists, Buchananites, Birchers, and a variety of other nuts and scoundrels all flock to this clown.
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