Amusing to watch your spin.
Posted on 09/02/2007 3:41:26 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
As the vote tallies were announced at the Texas Republican straw poll Saturday, at least one supporter of Rep. Ron Paul of Lake Jackson couldn't contain his frustration.
"Fix!" he yelled from the back of the ballroom at the Fort Worth Convention Center. "There's no way."
The congressman put a great deal of effort into the event in his home state, even paying to bus in supporters. They seemed to be the largest force in town. So it was a disappointment to those supporters when he came in third.
Some were convinced that Dr. Paul won.
"The results are totally wrong," said Jason Scarbrough, a Paul supporter who lives near Houston. "There were 10 times as many Ron Paul supporters here than anyone else had. There's just no way."
Though there were clearly more Paul people at the straw poll event, the congressman with the libertarian leanings had a much smaller base of support among those who could vote.
Even Dr. Paul conceded that he didn't think he could win.
"They made it very restrictive," Dr. Paul said at a rally Friday night. "But we're trying to build the party. If they want us to build the party, we can."
Saturday's vote disappointed Kathy Massey, a 45-year-old Houston woman who works in the petroleum industry.
She described Dr. Paul as a man of integrity who wants the Bill of Rights restored – and a political titan.
"Las Vegas oddsmakers say he's the only one who can beat" Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, Ms. Massey said, without offering proof.
(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...
Well you’re not me and so far you haven’t given me any reason to respond other than you acting like an uninformed blowhard.
Well I don’t try to tell others what to do, but I fully understand where you’re coming from. I think the party is beginning to understand how precarious their position is. This sudden immigration enforcement is nothing if not a recognition that the gig is up, even if it is simply a short fake out. The Republican party is convinced that the United States need to surrender sovereignty though security and trade agreements. That’ll be the day, when I buy into that s—t!
Yes, but I can think of some pretty top level people today who have destroyed their own mystic as well.
You are aware of the issues surrounding his execution. It was for Treason, for refusing to swear that Henry was the head of the Church.
“no temporal man may be head of the spirituality”.
In essence he was executed, beheaded, for putting his faith over his country.
Upon his execution, one of his last statements is most relevant to the topic at hand when he declared that he died “the king’s good servant, and God’s first.”
Obviously Moore, despite his love of the law, would have trouble putting any of it above God and his desires for us
Here is an account of the trial and execution.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/more/moreaccount.html
For what it is worth, th 1966 Movie was excellent, Paul Scofield did an outstanding job. I thank you for reminding me of that and of Moore's example of my point.
Amusing to watch your spin.
Amen.
I think the error that Paul makes is going too far back historically in looking at the reason for our war on terror today.
He sees our interventions leading to the rise of certain leaders, but ignores the fact the context of the Cold War.
He is looking at our history in the Mideast over the last decades, and ignoring the real nature of Islam which hasn't changed since its birth in the 7th century.
But we ought to debate what he is saying since it represented a legitimate wing of the GOP, the 'Old Right'right up to 1952 under Sen.Taft.
Now that the Cold War has ended, a reappraisal of our foreign policy is legitimate and reasonable.
We know have to determine how best to defeat Islamic Fascism and rogue terrorist nations.
Ron Paul has written a recent book on foreign policy, have you gotten it yet?
How you are treated on an internet board should have no bearing whatsoever on your political beliefs and support you give a candidate. If it does then you should seriously reconsider visiting these type of boards.
Real life. Get one.
“But don’t look for any endorsements. Why should he help the GOP after the grief he’s gotten from them?”
I have asked this question several times now of Paul supporters and not one will address it.
What is it exactly you think Paul will accomplish if he is president? and while we are at it, let’s add another question germane to that — what major piece of legislation can Paul claim credit for. He has been a part of the Washington establishment for 10 terms now afterall, so surely there must be something, oui?
Crickets.... tumbleweeds....
Ahh, name calling.
No other comment necessary.
I think that was a point I was trying to make, to. His “bills” he’s sponsored have never made it out of committee. Furthermore, it sure seems that while he rails against earmarks, his hand is sure out to accept them.
I don’t know why the Ron Paul supporters here seem to have such a thin skin. If you can’t answer just basic questions about your canidate, how on earth do you ever think you would handle the general election? Or even the primary?
“How many folks are out there freely donating their own money and time to the other campaigns compared to Paul’s? “
The biggest winner of the free donations of people’s money, ie, the top money raiser, has been Mitt Romney, and #2 is Rudy.
The words from a script is not the same. I suggest you read the history, not rely on a good play.
I salute your steadfastness to your cause, but perhaps there is a reason Libertarians are always at the margins of the political spectrum.
You can read the notes, but you can’t make Music.
” the Republican establishment “
lol - the grassroot GOP convention attendees are far more conservative and far less ‘establishment’ than the Paul folks let on. These are not country-club Republicans. These Texas GOP convention-goers are conservative grasroots activists and they have created one of the most conservative platforms for a state party in the nation. If you read the Texas GOP platform, you’d understand.
Your insult of Duncan Hunter is duly noted; however, if you compare the Texas GOP platform and Duncan Hunter’s positions, his huge victory makes a lot of sense.
“I think the error that Paul makes is going too far back historically in looking at the reason for our war on terror today.”
IMHO, Paul’s error is distorting history and not reading it correctly.
Author of the declaration and libertarian icon Thomas Jefferson, when faced with a threat of a foreign enemy, did what most Presidents would do but what Paul would not: He sent the Marines.
The first use of US military power to overthrow a foreign government was President Jefferson’s dispatching the Marines to take out the barbary pirates of Tripoli. That era’s version of terrorists were taken out by foreign intervention.
When faced with foreign enemies, we need to go *over there* and destroy the threat so it doesnt continue and threaten us *over here*.
I’m glad to see you have a sense of humor. I thought it was funny, too.
Suggest you post it somewhere on the Internet so that it can be linked to should it be useful in future articles posted about Mr. Paul.
I am not a Ron Paul supporter, primarily because of his position on National Security, but I am always interested in any candidate's positions that I could support.
I calls ‘em like I sees ‘em.
That's why we have civilian contractors in Iraq.
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