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To: teddyballgame
I am about the only person here who thinks that he should stay. I can name 3 democrats off the top my head that were not asked to resign - P. Kennedy driving drunk through the Capitol, that NJ governor who was praised for his gayness and even got on Oprah, and William Jefferson still has 90k in cash in his freezer.

The whole point of this is to drum out yet another Republican from office. At some point there has to be some pushback.

4 posted on 08/29/2007 7:07:57 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator
"At some point there has to be some pushback."

Push back for a good guy. Let this pervert go.

7 posted on 08/29/2007 7:09:23 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Yes, but the difference is Patches (Kennedy), McGreevey (I am a Gay American), and William (cold cash) Jefferson all SHOULD have resigned.

Three wrongs don’t make another wrong.


9 posted on 08/29/2007 7:10:41 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Tap your foot three times if you think he should stay. ..IMO, I would think he’d want to put this embarrassment behind him. What, does he need the money?


10 posted on 08/29/2007 7:10:55 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: KC_Conspirator
You may be.

Whether it is fair or right, this action hurts the Republican Party worse than it hurts the Democrat party.

It will be used against every Republican next year. This is probably a good thing actually because a guy was threatening to "out" Larry Craig for quite a while now but was waiting until it would do the most harm, just like the Foley mess.

If Larry Craig resigns now he does the least damage to every other Republican.
11 posted on 08/29/2007 7:11:23 AM PDT by elizabetty (The funding dried up and I can no longer afford Tagline Messages.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
I can name 3 democrats off the top my head that were not asked to resign ...

You left out Barney Frank and Gerry Studds.

12 posted on 08/29/2007 7:12:08 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: KC_Conspirator

He needs to go and right now. The governor can appoint someone to fill his last 16 months. Democrats have learned to live with drunken, lecherous sots. We don’t have to.


13 posted on 08/29/2007 7:12:56 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: KC_Conspirator

If he had the politics of Barney Frank I would agree. To me the glaring hipocrisy has sealed his fate, not the deed or his sexual proclivities.


17 posted on 08/29/2007 7:15:05 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: KC_Conspirator

The pushback needs to be that we become more aggressive in going after corrupt Democrats, not that we tolerate corrupt Republicans.

Our values voters can’t be expected to vote for a guy who solicits sex from men in a public restroom, nor for a party that brushes such behavior under the rug.

This is a tough area for Republicans. We face a hostile press corps that will highlight every GOP scandal while downplaying Democrat scandals, even to the point of making Democrats objects of sympathy for getting caught (McGreevey & Frank), But the only alternative is for our guys to aggressively challenge the press and the Democrats on this. Circling the wagons and defending Craig just won’t work. It works for the Democrats because their constituents don’t care if one of their leaders drove drunk off a bridge and left a girl to die, or operated a homosexual prostitution service, or had sex with a teen congressional page. But we have a higher class of constituents.


37 posted on 08/29/2007 7:41:38 AM PDT by puroresu
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To: KC_Conspirator
If Craig resigns now, there will be another Republican appointed to fill his remaining term. This person will not be shackled by the burden of this scandal as he goes into the election in 2008 and we are more likely to retain his seat as a result.

If Craig stays and runs for re-election, he will lose. The GOP will stay home, a Democrat will pick up this seat, and we also run the risk of losing Idaho's electoral votes for President.

We don't need this.

38 posted on 08/29/2007 7:42:25 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: KC_Conspirator
I so disagree with you.

If we're to cleanse the Republican Party in hopes of it ever returning to standards consistent with truly conservative tenets...

..we need to do our housecleaning and do it well.

Throw him out!

Let's hold them ALL responsible, accountable!

46 posted on 08/29/2007 7:53:40 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Don Sherwood of PA thought that he could overcome the scandal of having a 6 year affair with a girl 36 years his junior. The GOP backed him. The voters didn’t and we now have a dem instead of a pubbie holding the seat.

Dems can get away with this behavior. Conservatives will not put up with it. He needs to go now. If not for bad behavior, then for extremely bad judgment. Is this the type of man that we want as a lawmaker?


50 posted on 08/29/2007 8:01:23 AM PDT by Harvey105
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To: KC_Conspirator
Quote: “At some point there has to be some push-back.”

I have to say, while I am disturbed by Craig’s conduct, I am inclined to agree that sooner or later there has to be a stand. Mark Levin read the actual statute at play and the police report. While a bit weired, I just don’t see how what Craig did compares to Patrick Kennedy driving drunk, or William Jefferson, or Murtha, or Studds, or Dirty Harry’s land deals, or (insert dem name here). By the way, wasn’t some dem from California recently arrested for assaulting an airport worker? Is that person going to resign? Is being a peeping Tom worse than assault?

What is going on here amounts to a soft coup. The democrats are attempting to make it illegal to be a Republican or Conservative while insulating themselves from corruption. They label conservative talk radio “hate speech” that must be regulated. They demand absolute perfection from anyone who preaches morality such that if someone screws up a micron, they must resign NOW!!! Meanwhile, if a dems is investigated or accused of corruption they demand that the investigators be investigated or they cry “politics!!” Voila, they are insulated and the Republicans own corruption.

Sooner or later it has to stop because you can bet the dems are going to go after every Republican for everything. They are seeking to take what they can’t win at the ballot box. As for Craig, what he really did wrong here (if he is innocent) is not defending himself. If I were him, I would try to withdraw the plea and fight it out.

51 posted on 08/29/2007 8:01:26 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: KC_Conspirator
As Mary Matalin explained years ago, there is no outrage at corrupt, decadent, and perverted behavior by Democrats because that is what everybody expects from Democrats.

The Republicans must never sink to that level. Craig needs to go. Today.

54 posted on 08/29/2007 8:05:16 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: KC_Conspirator

You do have a point. I can’t say I disagree but the lamestreams run this show and so many people out there don’t attempt to seek information beyond what the media tells them. If they want to downplay the Demonrats’ indiscretions they will.......if they want to spew their venom on Republicans indiscretions they will, and they do...........in spades! :(


80 posted on 08/29/2007 8:38:21 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

You’re not alone. Heck, I’ve tried taking the easy way out before, only to have the problem arise blown much out of proportion than it was initially.

I want Craig to have the opportunity to face the accusing officer, and the Idaho paper that reportedly found that accuser ought be forced to reveal his name and Craig ought have an opportunity to confront those who accuse him. If the paper can’t or won’t, he should sue the living turd out of them.

I want to hear the officer’s perspective and especially if the officer first initiated the “contact”. I’d also like to know more about the “officer’s” background, political persuasion, sexual orientation, etc. before crucifying Craig.

Personally, I’m fed up with this crap of “he said, she said” and those accused are left no recourse for their defense while the MSM destroys their life by heaping allegations upon allegations.


81 posted on 08/29/2007 8:40:41 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
I am about the only person here who thinks that he should stay. I can name 3 democrats off the top my head that were not asked to resign - P. Kennedy driving drunk through the Capitol, that NJ governor who was praised for his gayness and even got on Oprah, and William Jefferson still has 90k in cash in his freezer. The whole point of this is to drum out yet another Republican from office. At some point there has to be some pushback.

I agree with you. He did not violate any statute by placing his bag on the floor or touching someone's shoe or running his hand along the divider. And he was not up at the door crack leering in at the occupant. It isn't even like he followed the decoy in after making eye contact. Odd behavior is not criminal.

All the democrats have to do is get the ball rolling and the good 'ole republicans pick up the ball, defame & drive out another long term representative, leaving it ripe for democrat pickings.

Craig is not a 'pervert' and talk of this kind should be challenged by the GOP. Clinton did far more and survived to be the media darling of today.

93 posted on 08/29/2007 11:08:34 AM PDT by chit*chat
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