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Trying to Connect the Dinner Plate to Climate Change
NY Times ^ | August 29, 2007 | CLAUDIA H. DEUTSCH

Posted on 08/28/2007 9:53:21 PM PDT by neverdem

EVER since “An Inconvenient Truth,” Al Gore has been the darling of environmentalists, but that movie hardly endeared him to the animal rights folks. According to them, the most inconvenient truth of all is that raising animals for meat contributes more to global warming than all the sport utility vehicles combined.

The biggest animal rights groups do not always overlap in their missions, but now they have coalesced around a message that eating meat is worse for the environment than driving. They and smaller groups have started advertising campaigns that try to equate vegetarianism with curbing greenhouse gases.

Some backlash against this position is inevitable, the groups acknowledge, but they do have scientific ammunition. In late November, the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization issued a report stating that the livestock business generates more greenhouse gas emissions than all forms of transportation combined.

When that report came out, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and other groups expected their environmental counterparts to immediately hop on the “Go Veggie!” bandwagon, but that did not happen. “Environmentalists are still pointing their fingers at Hummers and S.U.V.’s when they should be pointing at the dinner plate,” said Matt A. Prescott, manager of vegan campaigns for PETA.

So the animal rights groups are mobilizing on their own. PETA is outfitting a Hummer with a driver in a chicken suit and a vinyl banner proclaiming meat as the top...

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“You just cannot be a meat-eating environmentalist,” said Mr. Prescott, whose group also plans to send billboard-toting trucks to the Colorado Convention Center in Denver when Mr. Gore lectures there on Oct. 2. The billboards will feature a cartoon image of Mr. Gore eating a drumstick next to the tagline: “Too Chicken to Go Vegetarian? Meat Is the No. 1 Cause of Global Warming.”...

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To: w1andsodidwe
Just because you use water in any fashion, it does not disappear from the earth. Water is continually recycling. It is a just wrong to pretend that once water is used, it is no longer available to be used on the earth.

I wrote a college history essay once about molecules of water in a drinking glass and all the places they had been since the beginning of time.

61 posted on 08/29/2007 1:34:49 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: N. Theknow
I wrote a college history essay once about molecules of water in a drinking glass and all the places they had been since the beginning of time.

My sister did a 4H demonstration on water in the late 50's or early 60's. At that time it was said that the only way to conserve water was to use it. These ninnies nowadays act as though it disappears if you drink it.

62 posted on 08/29/2007 2:07:26 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe
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To: neverdem
So, why are they always so protective of wildlife? Those weirdos are always the first to protest anything that will disrupt any of the furry critters when they could actually "promote" it instead, which will help them in their efforts to kill off those evil global-warmers.

;-)

63 posted on 08/29/2007 10:19:02 PM PDT by DilJective (Proudly serving in the US Army)
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To: alwaysconservative

It does not take 1000 gallons of water to raise a pound of meat, or there would be no water on earth. I suspect there is exactly just as much water on earth as there was 1000 years ago.

You just object to drinking recycled cow piss, thats your problem.

If you are so worried about feeding 15 starving people, why do you have a lawn in your yard instead of grain?

If it takes 1000 gallons of water to raise a pound of beef, might I ask how many gallons of water does it take to raise a pound of wheat? And by the way, to raise wheat, you also need to figure in how many gallons of gasoline for the tractor.

Something that is not recycleable, and is not needed to raise range cattle.

-grin-

Empty logic can be twisted any which way...


64 posted on 08/30/2007 12:32:56 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: alwaysconservative
It just rubs me the wrong way when we mock vegetarianism...

LOL!!!

65 posted on 08/30/2007 2:30:16 AM PDT by XR7
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To: American in Israel; Question Liberal Authority

“Between 2,500-5,000 gallons of water (~100-200 showers) is needed to produce one pound of beef. About 25 gallons of water is needed to produce one pound each of lettuce, tomatoes and wheat.” — University of California Agricultural Extension & Dr. Georg Borgstrom, Chairman of the Food Science and Human Nutrition Department of the College of Agriculture and Natural Resources at Michigan State University.

and, in a book written by David Pimental, agricultural science professor at Cornell University, Professor Pimentel explained of his calculations that:

“the data we had indicated that a beef animal consumed 100 kg of hay and 4 kg of grain per 1 kg of beef produced. Using the basic rule that it takes about 1,000 liters of water to produce 1 kg of hay and grain, thus about 100,000 liters were required to produce the 1 kg of beef.”
Ecological Integrity: Integrating Environment, Conservation and Health (Island Press, Washington DC, 2001).

Regarding the ecological point I was trying to make originally:
“In the U.S., cattle emit about 5.5 million metric tons of methane per year into the atmosphere, accounting for 20% of U.S. methane emissions. After carbon dioxide, methane is the second most destabilizing gas to the planet’s climate.” EPA (Our own governmental agencies make this finding, now echoed by the UN study)

What I was saying (or trying to) is to not let the enviro-whackos pervert another issue for political reasons, but to make the case that conservatives can be on the right side (pun intended) of this, using facts and debate, not scorn.

And I will close my response and my posting on this thread on this subject with some final words by a celebrated (vegetarian) dullard about dietary choices:

“Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.” –Albert Einstein


66 posted on 08/30/2007 4:04:53 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (A cheerful heart is good medicine.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The Fabulous Fury Freak Brothers and Fat Freddy’s Cat. Haven’t seen them in ages.


67 posted on 08/30/2007 2:16:26 PM PDT by techcor
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To: neverdem; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks neverdem. Elsewhere in the “news”...

Next Ice Age Delayed By Rising Carbon Dioxide Levels
Science Daily | 8-30-2007 | University Of South Hampton
Posted on 08/30/2007 4:27:50 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1889132/posts


68 posted on 08/30/2007 4:45:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, August 29, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

As Seinfeld would say; yeah that’s a shame.


69 posted on 08/31/2007 8:11:07 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; Alamo-Girl




He answered and said unto them, "Give ye them to eat".

And they say unto Him, "Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?

He saith unto them,

"How many loaves have ye? Go and see."

And when they knew they say,"Five and two fishes".

And He commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass.

And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds and by fifties.

And when He had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, He looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to His disciples to set before them;

And the two fishes divided He among them all.

And they did all eat, and were filled.

And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.

And they that did eat of the loaves were about 5,000 men.


Mark 6:32--44




70 posted on 08/31/2007 11:07:24 AM PDT by devolve ( _Google-Illegals_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: devolve
Impressive post devolve!!



You just cannot be a meat-eating environmentalist,”




71 posted on 08/31/2007 11:16:12 AM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch


"Has anyone not bathed for a month?

I'm going after a few fish now!"





72 posted on 08/31/2007 11:28:55 AM PDT by devolve ( _Google-Illegals_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: devolve

Lol, I think she already caught one!!


73 posted on 08/31/2007 11:32:44 AM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: glock rocks
I believe the vegetarian we will eat will be cow. Grilled, with onions.

LOL!!! I'm eating some tasty Iowa cow right now.

74 posted on 08/31/2007 11:35:55 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: potlatch


75 posted on 08/31/2007 12:41:53 PM PDT by devolve ( _Google-Illegals_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: devolve

Whoops, no Bond girl on top of that burger!

At least the burgers keep it somewhat on topic, lol.


76 posted on 08/31/2007 12:48:58 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch


You know - I can think of lots of funny parodies of my Bond graphics

But I'm not sure I could post all of them on FR threads

Movie Titles + a pair of graphics

Could be very effective on some politicians


77 posted on 08/31/2007 1:18:18 PM PDT by devolve ( _Google-Illegals_Killed_25_Americans_Each_Day _A_Mex_Illegal_Alien_Sold_911_Terrorists_IDs_)
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To: devolve

[But I’m not sure I could post all of them on FR threads ]

I’m pretty sure you shouldn’t.

It probably isn’t everybodys cup of tea.


78 posted on 08/31/2007 1:23:30 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: alwaysconservative
even making sanitary water available to those who do not have it

How do you propose moving the water from a feedlot in Nevada to somewhere in say Africa in a cost efficient manner?

L

79 posted on 08/31/2007 1:32:16 PM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox and ebola.)
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To: alwaysconservative
“Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.” –Albert Einstein

Einstein died when he was 76.

What I was saying (or trying to) is to not let the enviro-whackos pervert another issue for political reasons, but to make the case that conservatives can be on the right side (pun intended) of this, using facts and debate, not scorn.

The "facts" are bogus. It does NOT take 5,000 gallons of water to produce a single pound of beef. And even if it did, all that would demonstrate is that water is incredibly inexpensive.
80 posted on 10/12/2007 7:48:55 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Al Gore and Osama Bin Laden have the same position on global warming, for the exact same reason.)
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