Posted on 08/27/2007 1:37:39 PM PDT by BnBlFlag
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Guess What Folks--Secesson Wasn't Treason by Al Benson Jr.
More and more of late I have been reading articles dealing with certain black racist groups that claim to have the best interests of average black folks at heart (they really don't). It seems these organizations can't take time to address the problems of black crime in the black community or of single-parent families in the black community in any meaningful way. It's much more lucrative for them (and it gets more press coverage) if they spend their time and resources attacking Confederate symbols. Ive come to the conclusion that they really don't give a rip for the welfare of black families. They only use that as a facade to mask their real agenda--the destruction of Southern, Christian culture.
Whenever they deal with questions pertaining to history they inevitably come down on that same old lame horse that the South was evil because they seceded from the Union--and hey--everybody knows that secession was treason anyway. Sorry folks, but that old line is nothing more than a gigantic pile of cow chips that smells real ripe in the hot August sun! And I suspect that many of them know that--they just don't want you to know it--all the better to manipulate you my dear!
It is interesting that those people never mention the fact that the New England states threatened secession three times--that's right three times--before 1860. In 1814 delegates from those New England states actually met in Hartford, Connecticut to consider seceding from the Union. Look up the Hartford Convention of 1814 on the Internet if you want a little background. Hardly anyone ever mentions the threatened secession of the New England states. Most "history" books I've seen never mention it. Secession is never discussed until 1860 when it suddenly became "treasonous" for the Southern states to do it. What about the treasonous intent of the New England states earlier? Well, you see, it's only treasonous if the South does it.
Columnist Joe Sobran, whom I enjoy, once wrote an article in which he stated that "...Jefferson was an explicit secessionist. For openers he wrote a famous secessionist document known to posterity as the Declaration of Independence." If these black racist groups are right, that must mean that Jefferson was guilty of treason, as were Washington and all these others that aided them in our secession from Great Britain. Maybe the black racists all wish they were still citizens of Great Britain. If that's the case, then as far as I know, the airlines are still booking trips to London, so nothing is stopping them.
After the War of Northern Aggression against the South was over (at least the shooting part) the abolitionist radicals in Washington decided they would try Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States as a co-conspirator in the Lincoln assassination (which would have been just great for Edwin M. Stanton) and as a traitor for leading the secessionist government in Richmond, though secession had hardly been original with Mr. Davis. However, trying Davis for treason as a secessionist was one trick the abolitionist radicals couldn't quite pull off.
Burke Davis, (no relation to Jeff Davis that I know of) in his book The Long Surrender on page 204, noted a quote by Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase, telling Edwin Stanton that "If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution, secession is not rebellion...His (Jeff Davis') capture was a mistake. His trial will be a greater one. We cannot convict him of treason." Burke Davis then continued on page 214, noting that a congressiona committee proposed a special court for Davis' trial, headed by Judge Franz Lieber. Davis wrote: "After studying more than 270,000 Confederate documents, seeking evidence against Davis, the court discouraged the War Department: 'Davis will be found not guilty,' Lieber reported 'and we shall stand there completely beaten'." What the radical Yankees and their lawyers were admitting among themselves (but quite obviously not for the historical record) was that they and Lincoln had just fought a war of aggression agains the Southern states and their people, a war that had taken or maimed the lives of over 600,000 Americans, both North and South, and they had not one shread of constitutional justification for having done so, nor had they any constitutional right to have impeded the Southern states when they chose to withdraw from a Union for which they were paying 83% of all the expenses, while getting precious little back for it, save insults from the North.
Most of us detest big government or collectivism. Yet, since the advent of the Lincoln administration we have been getting ever increasing doses of it. Lincoln was, in one sense, the "great emancipator" in that he freed the federal government from any chains the constitution had previously bound it with, so it could now roam about unfettered "seeking to devous whoseover it could." And where the Founders sought to give us "free and independent states" is anyone naive enough anymore as to think the states are still free and independent? Those who honestly still think that are prime candidates for belief in the Easter Bunny, for he is every bit as real as is the "freedom" our states experience at this point in history. Our federal government today is even worse than what our forefathers went to war against Britain to prevent. And because we have been mostly educated in their government brain laundries (public schools) most still harbor the illusion that they are "free." Well, as they say, "the brainwashed never wonder." ___________________
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while you are welcome to hold ANY opinion (it's called FREEDOM of speech/expression), may i tell you that yours are about as simplistic & "thought-FREE" as those of "x", the "useful idiot".
free dixie,sw
while you are welcome to hold ANY opinion (it's called FREEDOM of speech/expression), may i tell you that yours are about as simplistic & "thought-FREE" as those of "x", the "useful idiot".
free dixie,sw
pity, that you evidently are NOT smart enough to KNOW that you are the BUTT of "inside JOKES" about STUPID,IGNORANT, hate-FILLED, LIARS on FR.
do us ALL a favor & RESIGN from FR.
laughing AT you, BIGOT.
free dixie,sw
yawn
“An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the person”, “argument against the man”) consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to an irrelevant characteristic about the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. It is most commonly used to refer specifically to the ad hominem abusive, or argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or personally attacking an argument’s proponent in an attempt to discredit that argument.”
Typical tactic of trolls.
sorry,but pointing out that your attempt, to "dress up" your OPINIONS as IF they were facts, fools NOBODY. further, pointing out that your OPINIONS do NOT constitute either FACTS nor an argument is NOT an "ad hominum attack". instead it just points out that you "know NOT & know NOT that you know NOT".
as i've said before, you should request membership in "the DAMNyankee coven of lunatics,REVISIONISTS, nitwits,FOOLS, "useful idiots",BIGOTS, etc." from the unionist leader, Non-Sequitur. you'll fit right in.
free dixie,sw
PITY, that you don't evidently know the difference in an OPINION & a FACT.
free dixie,sw
You have not addressed any of the arguments put forth in Mr. Sandefur’s article that I posted. You’ve chosen to attack me directly. Textbook ad hominem. I posted an article with which I much agree. It supports my opinions. I have replied back to others with my opinions. I believe that the south’s secession was unconstitutional. That is my opinion. Mr. Sandefur put forth this in several arguments and backed it up with historical references that he indexes at the bottom of the article. One may attack the validity of his arguments with counter arguments or by questioning the validity of his interpretation of the quotes and cases he references and not be accused of ad hominem. You have chosen to do neither. You have said this:
“sorry,but pointing out that your attempt, to “dress up” your OPINIONS as IF they were facts, fools NOBODY. further, pointing out that your OPINIONS do NOT constitute either FACTS nor an argument is NOT an “ad hominum attack”. instead it just points out that you “know NOT & know NOT that you know NOT”.
That is called a argumentum ad ignorantiam and/or argument from personal incredulity.
“The argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam (”appeal to ignorance” [1]) or argument by lack of imagination, is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false or that a premise is false only because it has not been proven true.
The argument from personal incredulity, also known as argument from personal belief or argument from personal conviction, refers to an assertion that because one personally finds a premise unlikely or unbelievable, the premise can be assumed not to be true, or alternately that another preferred but unproven premise is true instead.
Both arguments commonly share this structure: a person regards the lack of evidence for one view as constituting evidence or proof that another view is true.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
thus i will also laugh AT you.
try learning to do your own research (from primary sources, rather than from secondary sources), rather than quoting someone like Sandefur & perhaps you will be taken seriously here.
free dixie,sw
Yes, it's much better to pick a random name, like, say, "Tyrone Brown," assign him to some college as a professor (and try to remember which college you had him at last time), and then make up quotes from him.
But then you support forcing states back into the "Union" at the point of a bayonet - hmmmmmmmmmmm - sounds like a whole lot of freedom to me (/sarcasm).
Hey, if that's the way you feel about America, feel free to launch a rebellion or leave for some country that suits you better.
He continues to attack the messenger(in this case wiki) instead of trying to refute the argument. More ad hominem. Typical tactic of tiresome trolls.
It’s actually pretty funny to watch him using ad hominem attacks to deny that he’s using ad hominem attacks. Very meta.
Yes, boys and girls, keep away from wikipedia and never trust articles like this one.
that's why you are known on FR as "bubba, the LIAR".
(NOTE TO: "del", if you believe ANYTHING that "bubba" posts, i pity you.)
laughing AT you,"bubba".
free dixie, sw
at least you'll RAISE the average IQ of the group by about 20 points.further, i predict you'll be welcomed.
fwiw, i again note that you're evidently clueLESS enough to believe "wikipedia", which marks you as UNknowledgeable & thus PERFECT for "the coven".
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
"bubba" LIES (& you are DUMB enough & filled with PREJUDICE against the southland/southerners AND evidently are a RACIST as well) & you WILLINGLY believe him.
PITY that BOTH of you are allowed to remain on FR.
free dixie,sw
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