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Baptists turn from public schools [NC]
News & Observer ^ | Aug 26, 2007 | Yonat Shimron

Posted on 08/26/2007 7:53:03 PM PDT by jern

Convinced that God has been erased from public schools, Southern Baptists are now working to open their own schools, where Jesus is writ large and Bible study is part of the daily curriculum.

Church leaders are not calling for a wholesale exodus from public schools, which would be a monumental hit, considering that Southern Baptists make up the nation's largest Protestant denomination with 16 million members.

Rather, they talk about alternatives to public schools capable of educating a new generation ready and willing to advocate for biblical principles rather than popular culture.

"In the public schools, you don't just have neutrality, you have hostility toward organized religion," said Daniel Akin, president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest. "A lot of parents are fed up."

Southeastern is leading the push, sponsoring a Christian School 101 workshop Monday and Tuesday. The program is designed to train church leaders to open private schools.

At Southeastern and elsewhere, Southern Baptists have become convinced that fighting to change the system is futile. They say public schools have long demonstrated a commitment to teaching evolution over creationism, world faiths over Christianity, sex education over abstinence, moral relativism over Christian claims of truth.

A history of alienation

The denomination's disenchantment with public schools is not new. It dates to the 1920s, when states debated the teaching of creationism vs. evolution. Evolution increasingly won, despite the famous Scopes Monkey Trial in Tennessee, which gave the victory to creationists. The 1962 and 1963 U.S. Supreme Court decisions banning prayer and devotional readings from public schools only increased Southern Baptists' ire.

Since then, alienation with public schools has grown alongside the nation's culture wars, pitting evangelical Christians against secularists.

"Southern Baptists see the new religious establishment in this country as secularism,"

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: baptists; christianschools; christianstudents; homeschooling; sbc
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To: Past Your Eyes

Actually Dublin, NH has a Christian Boarding school. I went to high school 40 years ago at a Christian School in Chicago (run by an independent Baptist Church).

Anyway - had a teacher who had gone to the Christian school in Dublin - later at Bob Jones I meant a few kids who had gone to school there... Don’t know how solid they are now - but back then they were VERY good.

http://www.dublinchristian.org/


41 posted on 08/27/2007 5:15:36 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: gondramB

Please name one.


42 posted on 08/27/2007 5:22:16 AM PDT by Hail Spode
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To: WKB

I had a thought on the whole “salt of the earth” thing the other day...

I don’t understand the philosophy .. I might for when a kid goes to college - at that point he/she is no longer a child and quite frankly needs to make those decisions (with guidance). But prior to college I think it’s best to keep the kids (if possible) in a Christian education environment - whether at a Christian school or homeschool.

I think it is wrong for parents to expect the kids to go to public school “to be a testimony” ... what if the child has NOT made the decision to accept Christ in their hearts. The results could be disasterous.


43 posted on 08/27/2007 5:30:47 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: beezdotcom

Good.

Everyone using the government schools should feel defensive and be fully prepared with lists of excuses.


44 posted on 08/27/2007 5:30:56 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: jern

OUCH & AMEN!

“Most evangelicals are biblically ignorant and uninformed,” said Edward E. Gamble, director of the Southern Baptist Association of Christian Schools, a Florida outfit that is hosting this week’s workshop. “We think it’s time we took ownership of the education of our children.”


45 posted on 08/27/2007 5:45:15 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: dawn53

We started home schooling when our oldest was ready for K, 13 yrs ago. That is all we have known...the private schools are just too expensive for us. We wanted our kids to be strong, grounded Christians and we also wanted them to learn what they’re supposed to learn.


46 posted on 08/27/2007 5:48:47 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
the secular humanist/NEA/board of education establishment types ever figure it out

They have a solution, same solution that the left ALWAYS uses - the FORCE of government. They'll try, successfully or not, to use government to force your kids to learn the curriculum that they want to teach.

47 posted on 08/27/2007 5:48:51 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: jern

My wife and I have toddler girls, we have already decided that they will go to private Catholic schools. We will make whatever sacrifices for them to get a good Christain education.


48 posted on 08/27/2007 5:49:45 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock
We will make whatever sacrifices for them to get a good Christain education.

"Whater sacrifices" - check into home schooling if you're that committed.

Read this - it's what convinced me:
http://www.amazon.com/So-Youre-Thinking-About-Homeschooling/dp/1590520858

49 posted on 08/27/2007 5:55:09 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: jern; DaveLoneRanger; Tax-chick

Interesting!


50 posted on 08/27/2007 5:57:03 AM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: Hail Spode

WOW — now that is cool — I am forwarding that to our youth minister. Thank you!


51 posted on 08/27/2007 5:57:49 AM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: MrB

We have ruled this out. One for money reasons and two we want them to go to a school with other kids. We have a fair number of good Catholic schools in our area. And keep in mind my wife was educate K through college in private Catholic schools, this is the option we have choosen.


52 posted on 08/27/2007 5:58:08 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Graybeard58

Good on your nephew. Missouri is also one of the best states in the country for homeschooling, with lots of supplemental resources available. :-)


53 posted on 08/27/2007 6:05:38 AM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: Hydroshock

good on you both. my oldest daughter is headed to an authentically Catholic college [U of Dallas], as a freshman, this very week. my kids have gone to catholic school from preschool on.


54 posted on 08/27/2007 6:07:56 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: John Leland 1789
The Southern Baptists have “Bible” colleges and Cemeteries (I mean) Seminaries, that have infidel professors who deny the biblicist fundamentals of the faith.

If you follow this closely, you would know that there have been splits in the SBC over the past few years. Here in Missouri, most of our Baptist colleges went with the split from the SBC. The SBC has, however, maintained inerrancy as one of it's tenants. Those who chose to disagree have moved on.

55 posted on 08/27/2007 6:09:03 AM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: Past Your Eyes

In the state of Washington the public skewels don’t give a fat rat’s ass because they still get our tax money.


56 posted on 08/27/2007 6:11:02 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: beezdotcom
Homeschooling usually has great results. Among my friends and family, we've also had great results with private and public schools. Of course, that has less to do with the school, and more to do with parental involvement.

I am a homeschooler who completely agrees with that statement.

57 posted on 08/27/2007 6:11:22 AM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: jern

The issue is expense to parents.

Technology could be the key.

There could be one national Southern Baptist High School with a “Saxon” training emphasis in all subjects; not just math.

The denomination could come up with the curriculum and have it approved by the accrediting agencies.

They could then farm it out to churches and homes with computer lab/terminal hookups.

Group education could be at churches with “guides” (teachers) trained to handle most subject matter issues.

Social activities could be organized through larger “central” churches.


58 posted on 08/27/2007 6:14:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: WKB
Our previous pastors wanted the kids to say in ps because they could witness to the others. While there may be a few who do, the evidence is clear that we have not made a real difference in society as a whole by having kids in ps.

WARNING! Public Schools Aren't for Christians! A Biblical Perspective by Richard "Little Bear" Wheeler

is an excellent explanation exactly why Christian kids should NOT be in government skoolz!

59 posted on 08/27/2007 6:15:38 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: pamlet

I meant to ping you to my post #59


60 posted on 08/27/2007 6:17:14 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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