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Posted on 08/19/2007 3:52:51 AM PDT by NautiNurse
Extremely dangerous Hurricane Dean is moving west-northwest through the Caribbean Sea. The current NHC forecast track indicates Dean's powerful center core will pass just south of the southwestern peninsula of Haiti, and should skirt Jamaica's southern shoreline. The storm maintained strong Category 4 wind status through the night during an eyewall replacement cycle. However, the minimum pressure supports Category 5, and additional strengthening of winds is likely.
Tourists in Jamaica crowded airports Saturday to leave the island nation. Jamaican Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller addressed the Jamaican people, asking that everyone put aside their political differences and work together in advance of the imminent storm preceding Jamaica's general election scheduled for August 27. PM Miller announced that the Jamaican power grid and water would likely be shut down early Sunday morning in advance of the storm, and strongly urged citizens to seek shelter.
The United States and Barbados have pledged hurricane relief supplies and support to Jamaica as needed. No word yet from the United Nations...
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I had a similar vision while in Florida before andrew. I just thought how with just a little more force that whole state could go under.
Could be bad news for Mexico City.
Mexico City Faces Risk Of Flooding From Burden On Crumbling Sewers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1872189/posts
Don’t think I saw that either, but it wouldn’t surprise me as close as the eye actually came to the island.
I keep reading that the models weren’t handling the ULL well. It’s almost like the models presupposed the ULL being ‘out of the picture’, moved into TX when in reality it’s stationary, if not retrograde. Tomorrow morning we’ll know better?
I have explained how you can go to a thread with lots of pictures, and not be slowed down one bit by them being there. I wouldn’t advocate you upgrade at all. You should be able to go to any thread with pictures and not suffer a slow upload, at least any slower than if the pictures weren’t there.
If you’re using Internet Explorer, go to Tools, Internet Options, Advanced... and unselect “print pictures”.
It’s that simple and both those that use dial-up and the faster services can use the same threads. That way more people see both groups submissions. Don’t you think that is optimal?
HAPAG-LLOYD Large Container ship Hoechst Express
(photo here:
http://www.shipphotos.co.uk/pages/hoechstexpress.htm)
is coming up behind the storm and reporting as of 4 hours ago:
Wind from 170 at 35 knots
Waves 4.0 meters (13 feet), 4 second period
Barometer 1006.0 mb
Air temperature 29.0 ° C
Dewpoint 26.0 ° C
Water temperature 29.0 ° C
This storm is about to cut just south of an area saturated with buoys!!
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml
Yeah, I see regardless of Dean, we have rain coming.
It will move by morning and we’re done with Erin, she cannot come back and play anymore! ;)
There is no answer. It’s just a discussion. Join in, with your thoughts. I’m very cautious and if I had any concerns I would probably do it. It can’t hurt his ratings because many of us, his base, are already upset with him about other stuff anyway:’)
Sinking their oilfields and then the capitol, talk about a slam dunk!
I heard someone on the tv mention today that she might make it back to the Gulf:’)
Yep, Thursday night Doc Frank said it’s going into Mexico and even a chance of hitting Belize...he never went off on all these nan-gites the other 24/7 weather hype hogs did. [Doc Frank was director of the NHC for 16 yrs.]
Do you know the city it might enter the mainland of Mexico through? Will it likely hit closer to Mexico city or Guadalajara?
By the same amazing modeling technology that allows perfect prediction of what the stock market will be doing in the near future. /sarcasm
First granddaughter got hit three times by the same storm in NC one year. Visiting one Christmas, she asked wife, "After we go to church, are we going to the shelter"?
Pretty good plan, go pray, then duck. :)
How many of those are new ones like the SS Minnow (42059), which took a lickin' and kept on tickin', versus old ones like all those that failed in 2005?
It baffles me why you continue to hijack this thread to broadcast your disappointment with my choices about managing these threads. I am also baffled about why you find it too difficult to post hyperlinks to large graphics, rather than hot linking large graphic images.
Now, if you have something productive to add regarding hurricanes in or from a California perspective, please do so. Otherwise, your persistent complaints are off topic, repetitious, and tiresome.
My husband was at Lowe’s in Pearland early this morning. There was a man from west of Corpus C there, he had driven all the way to that store because a shipment of plywood was being delivered. The man had rented a 550, & was there waiting when the store opened for “whenever” that plywood delivery arrived. My heart went out to this guy!
I’d venture to say, Brownsville & probably Corpus are going to get some really rough, nasty weather. If Dean is a cat 2 or even 3 when it crosses over land and into the gulf on its way to Mexico, it will be nasty... but not nearly nasty as as this cat 4 [hairline from a cat 5] steaming its way toward the gulf.
Personally, I understand your concern. It isn’t just the direct hit that’s a problem. Sheesh, Rita gave the “dirty side” of the storm a new meaning. I think it’s too early to start moving people out presently. During Rita, I went and got my mom from her personal care home at nearly 10 pm. We left in the middle of the night... and missed that houston fiasco. Also, mom slept through most all of the trip because it was her bed time! If you have an elderly person you are watching over, make sure their special prep’s are included... like depends.
Keep watching, & Stay safe!
How can people be so certain that a hurricane, especially one of this magnitude, will behave so predictablly?
A hurricane will behave depending upon how Coriolis forces, steering pressure zones, shear winds, and their fuel sources act. The Coriolis forces are easy to quantize and you can make some good guesses with the fuel source (i.e. the water temperature distribution). The high or low pressure zones and shear winds around the hurricane are difficult to estimate but sometimes they steady out like they have recently. You quantize these factors using supercomputers using algorithms and assumptions that various climate researchers think are accurate. Each of these algorithms is developed independently from the others and each has a certain history in how accurate it has been able to predict the paths of hurricanes. But when the computer models align, the uncertainty drops dramatically.
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