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Hurricane Dean Live Thread Part II
NOAA/NHC ^ | August 19, 2007 | NOAA/NWS

Posted on 08/19/2007 3:52:51 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: SouthTexas

I had a similar vision while in Florida before andrew. I just thought how with just a little more force that whole state could go under.


741 posted on 08/19/2007 8:53:00 PM PDT by ruthles (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: SouthTexas

Could be bad news for Mexico City.

Mexico City Faces Risk Of Flooding From Burden On Crumbling Sewers

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1872189/posts


742 posted on 08/19/2007 8:53:34 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: steveegg

Don’t think I saw that either, but it wouldn’t surprise me as close as the eye actually came to the island.


743 posted on 08/19/2007 8:54:21 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: CindyDawg
I am an extreme novice on these threads and have no opinion that anyone should be much concerned about. But that flat straight line in Post #721 bothers me.

How can people be so certain that a hurricane, especially one of this magnitude, will behave so predictablly?
744 posted on 08/19/2007 8:54:25 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: NautiNurse

I keep reading that the models weren’t handling the ULL well. It’s almost like the models presupposed the ULL being ‘out of the picture’, moved into TX when in reality it’s stationary, if not retrograde. Tomorrow morning we’ll know better?


745 posted on 08/19/2007 8:54:37 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: lentulusgracchus

I have explained how you can go to a thread with lots of pictures, and not be slowed down one bit by them being there. I wouldn’t advocate you upgrade at all. You should be able to go to any thread with pictures and not suffer a slow upload, at least any slower than if the pictures weren’t there.

If you’re using Internet Explorer, go to Tools, Internet Options, Advanced... and unselect “print pictures”.

It’s that simple and both those that use dial-up and the faster services can use the same threads. That way more people see both groups submissions. Don’t you think that is optimal?


746 posted on 08/19/2007 8:56:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: steveegg

HAPAG-LLOYD Large Container ship Hoechst Express
(photo here:
http://www.shipphotos.co.uk/pages/hoechstexpress.htm)
is coming up behind the storm and reporting as of 4 hours ago:

Wind from 170 at 35 knots

Waves 4.0 meters (13 feet), 4 second period
Barometer 1006.0 mb
Air temperature 29.0 ° C
Dewpoint 26.0 ° C
Water temperature 29.0 ° C

This storm is about to cut just south of an area saturated with buoys!!
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml


747 posted on 08/19/2007 8:56:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: SouthTexas

Yeah, I see regardless of Dean, we have rain coming.


748 posted on 08/19/2007 8:56:33 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Tuxedo

It will move by morning and we’re done with Erin, she cannot come back and play anymore! ;)


749 posted on 08/19/2007 8:57:07 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: Iwo Jima

There is no answer. It’s just a discussion. Join in, with your thoughts. I’m very cautious and if I had any concerns I would probably do it. It can’t hurt his ratings because many of us, his base, are already upset with him about other stuff anyway:’)


750 posted on 08/19/2007 9:00:36 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SwinneySwitch

Sinking their oilfields and then the capitol, talk about a slam dunk!


751 posted on 08/19/2007 9:00:55 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas

I heard someone on the tv mention today that she might make it back to the Gulf:’)


752 posted on 08/19/2007 9:02:17 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SouthTexas

Yep, Thursday night Doc Frank said it’s going into Mexico and even a chance of hitting Belize...he never went off on all these nan-gites the other 24/7 weather hype hogs did. [Doc Frank was director of the NHC for 16 yrs.]


753 posted on 08/19/2007 9:05:49 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Do you know the city it might enter the mainland of Mexico through? Will it likely hit closer to Mexico city or Guadalajara?


754 posted on 08/19/2007 9:06:55 PM PDT by ruthles (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: Iwo Jima
How can people be so certain that a hurricane, especially one of this magnitude, will behave so predictably?

By the same amazing modeling technology that allows perfect prediction of what the stock market will be doing in the near future. /sarcasm

755 posted on 08/19/2007 9:07:13 PM PDT by Sender (A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.)
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To: CindyDawg
It wouldn't be the first time.

First granddaughter got hit three times by the same storm in NC one year. Visiting one Christmas, she asked wife, "After we go to church, are we going to the shelter"?

Pretty good plan, go pray, then duck. :)

756 posted on 08/19/2007 9:08:19 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: tcrlaf
Nothing like coming in behind a storm.

How many of those are new ones like the SS Minnow (42059), which took a lickin' and kept on tickin', versus old ones like all those that failed in 2005?

757 posted on 08/19/2007 9:08:29 PM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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To: DoughtyOne
It baffles me why you think folks with DSL and Fiber Optic connections should be forbidden to use your thread to desiminate [sic] advanced information.

It baffles me why you continue to hijack this thread to broadcast your disappointment with my choices about managing these threads. I am also baffled about why you find it too difficult to post hyperlinks to large graphics, rather than hot linking large graphic images.

Now, if you have something productive to add regarding hurricanes in or from a California perspective, please do so. Otherwise, your persistent complaints are off topic, repetitious, and tiresome.

758 posted on 08/19/2007 9:11:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse (McClatchy News report: Half the nation's families earn below the median family income)
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To: CindyDawg

My husband was at Lowe’s in Pearland early this morning. There was a man from west of Corpus C there, he had driven all the way to that store because a shipment of plywood was being delivered. The man had rented a 550, & was there waiting when the store opened for “whenever” that plywood delivery arrived. My heart went out to this guy!

I’d venture to say, Brownsville & probably Corpus are going to get some really rough, nasty weather. If Dean is a cat 2 or even 3 when it crosses over land and into the gulf on its way to Mexico, it will be nasty... but not nearly nasty as as this cat 4 [hairline from a cat 5] steaming its way toward the gulf.

Personally, I understand your concern. It isn’t just the direct hit that’s a problem. Sheesh, Rita gave the “dirty side” of the storm a new meaning. I think it’s too early to start moving people out presently. During Rita, I went and got my mom from her personal care home at nearly 10 pm. We left in the middle of the night... and missed that houston fiasco. Also, mom slept through most all of the trip because it was her bed time! If you have an elderly person you are watching over, make sure their special prep’s are included... like depends.

Keep watching, & Stay safe!


759 posted on 08/19/2007 9:11:59 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: Iwo Jima
I am an extreme novice on these threads and have no opinion that anyone should be much concerned about. But that flat straight line in Post #721 bothers me.

How can people be so certain that a hurricane, especially one of this magnitude, will behave so predictablly?

A hurricane will behave depending upon how Coriolis forces, steering pressure zones, shear winds, and their fuel sources act. The Coriolis forces are easy to quantize and you can make some good guesses with the fuel source (i.e. the water temperature distribution). The high or low pressure zones and shear winds around the hurricane are difficult to estimate but sometimes they steady out like they have recently. You quantize these factors using supercomputers using algorithms and assumptions that various climate researchers think are accurate. Each of these algorithms is developed independently from the others and each has a certain history in how accurate it has been able to predict the paths of hurricanes. But when the computer models align, the uncertainty drops dramatically.

760 posted on 08/19/2007 9:11:59 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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