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Ancient Persian (Zoroastrian) influence on Hinduism
Cybernooon ^ | 10/17/07 | Cybernoon

Posted on 08/17/2007 6:04:01 PM PDT by freedom44

Hinduism pertains to Hindus but the word Hindu itself is actually a Persian word coined by Cyrus the great in the 6th century B.C. to describe people who lived beyond the river Indus which was the eastern boundary of the ancient Persian empire. The Persians had a phonetic problem with the letter ‘S’ hence, Sindhu became Hindu just as Rigveda’s Soma came from Zend Avesta’s Hoama. Such fascinating phonetic affinities!

Even the word Shudra in Hinduism’s caste-system came from the Persian word Hatoksha. Originally, there were only three castes but the camp followers collected by Persians on their travels were called Hatokshas. The Romans, who separated from the original Aryanstock at a much earlier date than the Brahmins called fire Athar. In old Sanskrit, lightning is called Atharvan. In ancient Persia Arthvan meant a priest and this word evolved to become Brahmin.

Persian herders of cattle were called Vastrayosh and after they settled down from their nomadic existence to become cultivators and later, traders, the word evolved into Hinduism’s Vaishya caste. In the Vedas, waters are called Apo-Devi and in the Avesta, Apo-Vanghuish. Also, the prominent deities of the Rig Veda like Surya, Varun and Aryaman have come from the Avesta.

In fact, originally, the Rig Veda was written in the Kharoshti script which like Persian is written backwards i.e. from right to left. The Brahmi script came much later and our Devnagri script even later than Brahmi. In Lemuria, Atlantis and Babylon, there was the Akhadian script, found on Babylonian tablets during excavations, from which the Pali script evolved. This is why, since ancient Persia was the melting-pot of civilisations, Sanskrit sounds like old Persian e.g. Veeg the seed became the Sanskritised Beej.

The Aryan settlers who lived in Persia and later, in India, had a lot in common by way of phonetics, language, spirituality and reverence for nature. The five elements of nature called Panchamahabhoot were worshipped, with fire and it’s apex in ancient India. This idea came from Persia and the oldest religion in the world viz.

Zorastrianism which as and still is, the most eco-friendly religion in the world. It is a cardinal sin for a Parsi to defile any of nature’s elements which is why, a corpse, a filthy shell after it’s pranic energy has left it, is never to be burnt on fire. That would be a grave sin to the element of agni.

Rather, a Parsi feeds the fire within a fire-temple with sweet-smelling sandalwood and frankincense.

Persian warriors were called ratheshwars, and this word evolved into kshatriyas. Even wars were fought in a noble fashion through there’s nothing noble about a war to my way of thinking. In the ancient world, man lived with nature. He depended on nature for his food, shelter and livelihood. To him, the forces of nature and her five elements appeared to be pulsating with life. The sun, moon, stars, clouds, earth, springs, rivers, oceans, trees, grass, flowers were, he believed, presided over by invisible intelligences which is a cosmic fact. Geofrey Hodsun has proved this through his clairvoyant theosophical books.

In return for nature’s bounties and blessings, man gave homage which took the form of the various hymns and prayers in the Avesta as well as the Rig Veda. Hence, there are so many similarities and spiritual parallels between Ancient Persian theology and that of the pre-vedic and vedic times. The Persian Goddess of water was Ahurani, similar to the vedic Asurani. Feeding the sacred fire was common to the Persians as well as the pre-vedic society. So many similarities, so much in common, because, in the final analysis, it’s the same supreme energy we all worship!


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: faithandphilosophy; godsgravesglyphs; hinduism; india; influence; persia; zoroastrians
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1 posted on 08/17/2007 6:04:03 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

GGG


2 posted on 08/17/2007 6:04:21 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

3 posted on 08/17/2007 6:09:00 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: freedom44
The first systematic theory of the relationships between human languages began when Sir William Jones, "Oriental Jones," proposed in 1786 that Greek and Latin, the classical languages of Europe, and Sanskrit, the classical language of India, had all descended from a common source. The evidence for this came from both the structure of the languages -- Sanskrit grammar has similarities to Greek and to nothing else -- and the vocabulary of the languages. Thus, "father" in English compares to "Vater" in German, "pater" in Latin, "patêr" in Greek, "pitr." in Sanskrit, "pedar" in Persian, etc. On the other hand, "father" in Arabic is "ab," which hardly seems like any of the others. This became the theory of "Indo-European" languages, and today the hypothetical language that would be the common source for all Indo-European languages is called "Proto-Indo-European." The following table shows a genealogy for two "knowing" roots, which in modern English turn up as "know" and "wit."


4 posted on 08/17/2007 6:14:04 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: freedom44

Hinduism is not the only religion that came from ancient Persian religion. There was a split. One religion went south, and the other religion went southwest.


5 posted on 08/17/2007 6:15:03 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been, will write Duncan Hunter in)
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To: freedom44

What Would Hindu?


6 posted on 08/17/2007 6:59:50 PM PDT by gcruse (Let's strike Iran while it's hot.)
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To: familyop

Am I wrong, but does this article almost read as “Everything that’s Hindu - from their castes to their gods to their ethnic name - came from Persia”?


7 posted on 08/17/2007 7:29:27 PM PDT by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" by Tamara Wilhite)
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Yes - and if you read the History of Persia, you would be surprised how much more of our civilization has roots in Persian civilization.


8 posted on 08/17/2007 8:17:39 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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9 posted on 08/17/2007 9:01:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, August 17, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: freedom44; blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 24Karet; ...
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10 posted on 08/17/2007 9:02:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, August 17, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

very interesting.

thank you.


11 posted on 08/17/2007 9:03:05 PM PDT by ken21 (28 yrs +2 families = banana republic junta. si.)
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To: freedom44

The Zoroastrian influence also extends to Shiite Muslims in Iran. The belief in the hidden Iman, the messiah, is obviously a Zoroastrian influence.


12 posted on 08/17/2007 9:37:33 PM PDT by spyone
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To: ken21

You’re most welcome.


13 posted on 08/17/2007 9:42:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, August 17, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CarrotAndStick

some of the words that I can think of off the top of my head with similarities to English words:

Madar = mother

daukhtar = daughter/girl

pedar = father

baradar = brother

man = me

tou = you (or rather “tu” the familiar you in french which I think it’s still related to the same root word)

setareh = star

mah = moon

lab = lip

abroo = eyebrow

chooneh = chin

and of course basicly the number count.

There’s much much more to have fun with, but my brain function has slowed down this late at night!


14 posted on 08/17/2007 11:00:17 PM PDT by parisa
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To: parisa

That list you made, the words are almost identical to those used in Hindi/Sanskrit and most other Indian languages.


15 posted on 08/17/2007 11:10:39 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: txzman

Indeed. And they had beliefs in things like resurrection, a messiah-like figure, the judgment, a hierarchy of angels and demons, etc. well before there is evidence of these beliefs among the Hebrews. This troubled me as a Christian, until a Catholic teacher of mine pointed out that, while the Jews are God’s chosen people, that does not mean that aspects of the truth did not come through other peoples. God’s truth is Truth and there are hints of it in nearly every culture.


16 posted on 08/17/2007 11:20:03 PM PDT by beachdweller
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To: parisa

“Sanskrit, Latin, Avestan are all sister languages, and the present day upper Indian, Persian and European languages are related eg. Baradar in Persian = Brata in Sanskrit = Brother in English. “Persia” is actually a late European term for the land of “Farsi” language ie. Iran.

The Arabic phase in Iran only began 1300 years ago, and we had to escape to India to preserve our Zoroastrian religion.”

http://tenets.zoroastrianism.com/histar33.html


17 posted on 08/17/2007 11:20:37 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

I’m sure, if I spoke Hindi or Sanskrit, there’d be a lot more words we could come up with basicallly sounding the same. These words I listed though are Persian.


18 posted on 08/17/2007 11:20:43 PM PDT by parisa
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To: parisa

Pure Sanskrit would have lots of similarities, but with Hindi, things get slightly different. With vernacular Hindi, there will be plenty of Persian and Arabic words, but the older version will get closer to Sanskrit.

‘Duhiter’ in Sanskrit, is ‘daughter’ in English. ‘Duhiter’ is less frequently used in common Hindi, as compared to the colloquial words, ‘baeti’ or ‘putrie,’ for the same meaning.


19 posted on 08/17/2007 11:36:34 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: beachdweller

My understanding is that after the Great Flood and Noah, the people scattered thoughout the world and they carried the truth of the beginning of man (Adam and Eve), hell, a god, a savior, demons, etc. because the original truth stayed with them through oral history. It was passed down from generation to generation! That is why so many religions have similar truths! Even the Chinese have religious stories about the Great Flood!


20 posted on 08/17/2007 11:40:50 PM PDT by Anita1 (Duncan Hunter for President in '08!! A man of Action and Integrity!))
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