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Revealed: 170 Gangs On The Streets Of London
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-12-2007 | Andrew Alderson

Posted on 08/12/2007 6:09:33 PM PDT by blam

Revealed: 170 gangs on streets of London

By Andrew Alderson, Chief Reporter, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 12:35am BST 12/08/2007Page 1 of 3

They hunt in packs and use knives and pistols to settle feuds and punish perceived 'disrespect'. The policeman leading the fight back explains the enormity of his task

James Smartt-Ford, Michael Dosunmu, Billy Cox, Kodjo Yenga, Adam Regis, Paul Erhahon, Annaka Pinto, Ben Hitchcock, Martin Dinnegan

Detective Chief Superintendent Barry Norman thought he had seen it all during his 28 years with the Metropolitan Police Force: gruesome murders, brutal rapes and vicious armed robberies.

Yet, as he rose through the ranks from a constable to the head of Scotland Yard's Violent Crime Directorate, nothing prepared him for the scale of the task he now faces - tackling gang warfare.

Scotland Yard has just completed the task of counting how many street gangs there are in London. The results are staggering: there are more than 170, some of them up to 100-strong. It means on any given night, several thousand gang members are roaming the capital, many of them thirsting for violence. In other British cities, notably Manchester, Liverpool, Glasgow and Birmingham, there is a frighteningly similar picture.

"Serious youth violence is the biggest problem we have today in London - with the possible exception of terrorism," Mr Norman told The Sunday Telegraph. "Nothing frightens people more, and when that violence takes place in a group setting, it is all the more shocking.

"If I could achieve just one more thing in my service, it would be to wake up the whole of London to this problem. Trying to suppress [gang] crime on a day-to-day basis is like holding a football underwater. Eventually it just comes flying back in your face."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 170; gangs; london; uk
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Why have civilized people allowed gangs to take over the streets of major Western cities?

What will we do about it and when?

1 posted on 08/12/2007 6:09:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

get rid of the aclu.


2 posted on 08/12/2007 6:11:35 PM PDT by ken21 (28 yrs + 2 families = banana republic junta. si.)
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To: blam

If it goes unchecked the gangsters will take power and THEY will keep order. They won’t have the scruples of the police and bleeding heart judges.


3 posted on 08/12/2007 6:12:46 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Clockwork Orange wasn’t exactly fiction was it.


4 posted on 08/12/2007 6:18:37 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: George from New England

It was different though. There are more ethnic gangs than in the movies.


5 posted on 08/12/2007 6:23:08 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: blam

Gun them down. When animals take over they need to to be eliminated. Not all will die, just a few and the rest will scurry away.


6 posted on 08/12/2007 6:24:53 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: blam

“They hunt in packs and use knives and pistols...”

IMPOSSIBLE! Guns are outlawed in England.


7 posted on 08/12/2007 6:27:23 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: blam
Legalize it, don’t criticize it...

You’ll end the turf blood baths in a years time. Then send the welfare dregs to the sweatshops...to pay for private education for their children.

8 posted on 08/12/2007 6:28:29 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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They hunt in packs and use knives and pistols to settle feuds and punish perceived 'disrespect'.

Pistols? Really?

But, but, but, I though guns were banned in England, even the bobbies don't carry them. How could this be?

9 posted on 08/12/2007 6:28:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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his 28 years with the Metropolitan Police Force

"If I could achieve just one more thing in my service, it would be to wake up the whole of London to this problem.

Sounds like he's done quite enough already.

Whose watch did this festering sore turn gangrenous on?

No wonder people are leaving in droves.

10 posted on 08/12/2007 6:28:58 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: blam

I thought guns were illegal in the UK.


11 posted on 08/12/2007 6:30:02 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

So did I, but as always, what one lacks, is what one yearns for, and eventually they shall have it.


12 posted on 08/12/2007 6:31:40 PM PDT by lookihaveaswordinmybelly (And they say 15 year olds won't understand.....yet here I am!)
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To: blam

And you have to watch out for "Hell's Grannies" and those vicious gangs of "Keep Left" signs.

13 posted on 08/12/2007 6:33:23 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: blam

FWIW, despite the rogues gallery pic above, the gang problem includes a more widespread “diversity” than the writer wished to convey.....from the very last lines on the 3rd page of a list of deceased gang members:

Abu Shahin, 18, stabbed, Ilford, Essex

Abukar Mahamed, 16, shot, Stockwell

144 virgins are now employed, I suppose......


14 posted on 08/12/2007 6:43:33 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: uksupport1

Ping for your input.

FReegards,

GB


15 posted on 08/12/2007 6:45:40 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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Parents don’t raise their kids, schools don’t discipline the kids, & everybody wonders why they act like vicious animals.

In the end, there is only 2 ways to deal with a vicious animal: cage it or kill it.

16 posted on 08/12/2007 6:54:12 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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despite the rogues gallery pic above

Not sure if the young folks were actually in gangs. All of them are dead -- shot or stabbed to death. I assume they were killed in gang violence but I haven't seen anything that says these kids were up to no good...

But it is really sad, they look like decent kids. What a waste of life.

17 posted on 08/12/2007 7:04:49 PM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: blam

“Why have civilized people allowed gangs to take over the streets of major Western cities?”

* “Remember, they’re British!

* “Remember, they’re French, or Spaniards, or Dutch, et. al”

* “Remember, they’re Democrats - Philly, DC, Baltimore (O’Malley terroritory), Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, Dearborn, LA, San. Francisco, Houston, Dallas, E. St. Louis, Cleveland (Kucinich terroritory); New Orleans (Ray Nagin, the ragin’ Cajun, oops, that’s Carville. Nagan is “the chocolate town man”). etc.

You get the drift, and if you are not careful, maybe a bullet.


18 posted on 08/12/2007 8:59:04 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: blam

We have over 400 gangs here in LAs Vegas.


19 posted on 08/12/2007 9:01:15 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Part of the RIGHT-Wing Machine.)
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To: ken21

They don’t have a ACLU in Britain.


20 posted on 08/12/2007 9:28:22 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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