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Elite Media Fears Giuliani as GOP Nominee
Fox News/ RCP ^ | Wednesday, August 08, 2007 | Russ Smith

Posted on 08/09/2007 5:54:29 AM PDT by IrishMike

Rudy Giuliani's quest for the presidency isn't one I embrace, but the vitriol — perhaps born of fear that he could win in 2008 — leveled against him by the elite media and left wing magazines is surely disproportionate.

As a Manhattan resident from 1987-2003, I never cared for Giuliani's constant self-aggrandizement, odd political decisions (his endorsement of Mario Cuomo in '94) and almost comical and fruitless efforts to censor artists he considered lewd and blasphemous.

Those detriments, however, paled compared to his grandstanding in the late 1980s, when, as if taking direction from The New York Times, he zealously used his position as a U.S. attorney to "clean up" the "white collar criminals" in the financial industry. That few of his indictments were successful — aside from ruining the professional lives of many sacrificial lambs — was largely forgotten in his subsequent campaigns for mayor of New York.

Nevertheless, with the dearth of compelling Republican candidacies, Giuliani's platform of aggressive foreign policy and promised allergy to tax hikes is clearly preferable to the lockstep protectionist, punish-the-rich, United-Nations-friendly stances of all the plausible Democratic contenders. ......................................... I've no idea whether Giuliani's moderate views on "morality" issues will sink him in the GOP primaries. Even though his early polling lead has slipped in recent months, it's my hunch that except for diehard, single-issue religious conservatives, Giuliani's tough stance on terrorists will trump issues like abortion and gay marriage. In reading both the Harper's and Rolling Stone exercises in revisionist paranoia, however, it's clear that Bush-despisers are petrified that Giuliani might be the GOP nominee a year from now.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; autocrat; elections; giuliani; gop; liberalmedia; media; mediabias; msm; rinorudy; rudy; rudyisaphony; rudyisatyrant
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1 posted on 08/09/2007 5:54:30 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Anyone but Rootie. I agree.


2 posted on 08/09/2007 5:59:07 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: IrishMike

I fear it as well...fortunately, its not going to happen.


3 posted on 08/09/2007 5:59:44 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye

Rootie is a Repeublican???????????


4 posted on 08/09/2007 6:02:02 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen
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To: IrishMike

I had an extremely liberal friend who lived in NYC for years and years. He was the last high school friend I still had contact with. This guy hated Rudy and couldn’t even mention his name without some Nazi reference. He surely had Rudy Derangement Syndrome (RDS) and it was fun to watch. I find that liberals usually hate the most liberal of GOP candidates with a passion. They tend to dismiss conservatives as crazy and just laugh about them... it’s the ones who are more to the left that really bring on the derangement and threaten them. I have to admit, it’s fun to watch.


5 posted on 08/09/2007 6:06:05 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: IrishMike

Rudy could become a more attractive candidate. If he’d take a few steps. He needs to trade in his armani suit and wingtips for a pair of jeans and boots and hit the southwest U.S. border are hard and furious. Get real aggressive on the illegal immigration. Next he needs to meet w/the NRA folks. Get down on his knees and beg them for advice on what he needs to do to get an endorsement from them. Finally, he needs to meet with a Cardinal from his own Church. Get some counseling. Do some soul searching. Become a convert like Romney did.
The reason he maintains the popularity that he does is because folks know he has an aggressive, in-your-face personality and won’t be bully’d as our present regime has been. People are tired of the GOP being a continuous “door-mat” for the opposition.
Or if folks in the GOP were smart they’d recognize that there is already a “ready made” candidate just waiting for them with all of the right qualifications: www.gohunter08.com Darvin Dowdy


6 posted on 08/09/2007 6:10:38 AM PDT by Darvin Dowdy (Rudy's No Duncan Hunter but...)
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To: IrishMike
Why would the elite media care if Rudi won in 2008?

He is just like Hitlery with one exception, Rudi wears a dress from time to time.
7 posted on 08/09/2007 6:12:35 AM PDT by elizabetty (The funding dried up and I can no longer afford Tagline Messages.)
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To: IrishMike
Where's the BARF Alert?

(this article is a 'pant load'.)

8 posted on 08/09/2007 6:13:49 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Darvin Dowdy
The reason he maintains the popularity that he does is because folks know he has an aggressive, in-your-face personality and won’t be bully’d as our present regime has been. People are tired of the GOP being a continuous “door-mat” for the opposition.

I think you are spot on with this comment. That doesn't mean the GOP candidate has to be an ancient, aggressive, angry, a-hole all the time (like our stereotype). However, I for one am a little tired of seeing Bush continuously "turn the other cheek" but maybe that's because I'm not as good a Christian as he is.

9 posted on 08/09/2007 6:16:38 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Condor51

The elite media has done all it can to promote Rudy, because they realize, unlike the Rudy supporters that these phony polls showing Rudy competitive in a two way race are nothing but a mirage. If Rudy is the nominee, it won’t be a two way race. As Ed Rollins and any half savvy observer of GOP politics knows, there would be a socially conservative third party which would draw double digits out of the Republican coalition and would GUARANTEE the election of Hillary Clinton. The Clintons have never, and can never, win a one on one race with a conservative. But if they can split the Republican coalition by facilitating the nomination of someone who is anathema not just to right to lifers but to 2nd Amendment aficionados and other social conservatives (ie- a liberal), then she can win in a walk as her husband did in 1992 (Perot pealed off the fiscal conservatives after Bush 41 raised taxes).

This is so obvious that I am surprised it is not mentioned over and over again. I still do not believe Rudy will be nominated, because Republican primary voters are principled enough not to allow it to happen and practical enough to see the consequences (Hillary’s election) if it does.

Ultimately, the conservatives will unite behind the most electable conservative and the most gifted politician, and that IMHO is Fred Thompson.


10 posted on 08/09/2007 6:29:19 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: rhombus

Right now, the only thing I’m looking for in a Republican candidate is someone who has bigger ‘nads than Hillary. I, for one, like righteous indignation and in-your-face truth. I want a Doberman, not a well-trained Shitzu. I would rather have Rudy walking over to hill’s podium and lifting his leg on her, than a candidate who can do cool tricks, but cowers in the corner when clinton speaks. Hillary needs a fear factor foe. Satan has released the hounds of hell. And his lead hound is sniffing out the blood of her opponents.


11 posted on 08/09/2007 6:37:37 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: Brices Crossroads; small voice in the wilderness
The elite media (MSM) is afraid of Rudy, since he has an excellent chance of defeating Hildebeast.

If Rudy is nominated, there will not be a socially conservative third party. Rudy will pick a VP from the South or perhaps D. Hunter.

I do not find Rudy is my perfect candidate. I have not had one since Ronald Reagan. However, I know a lot of people from NYC and they all tell me the same thing. Rudy go things done, he changed the city in a huge way for the better. Sure, he showed is butt from time to time, but he is a man that can get things done.

Socials conservatives have a right to be concerned about Rudy, but if you consider the worst case if Rudy is elected President, it comes right down to who he nominates for the Supreme Court. I believe he will appoint strict constructionists. That is good enough for me.

Freepers that say there is no difference between Rudy and Hildebeast are just lying to themselves. If Rudy is nominated, and some social conservative don’t support him, and Hildebeast is elected, they can plan on watching her at press conferences when they play hail to the chief, and get nauseated like we did with Slick.

I am not saying it is wrong to support someone other than Rudy. I like Fred and Duncan, and others, but I recognize that Rudy has abilities that would be beneficial to our country, and if nominated he deserves our support.

12 posted on 08/09/2007 6:59:03 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: IrishMike
Hated by the Left.

Hated by the right.

So it goes for those who insist on trying to play both sides of the road.


13 posted on 08/09/2007 7:01:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (When Romney got done in MA, there were more Green Party candidates than Republican candidates...)
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To: Brices Crossroads
*** If Rudy is the nominee, it won’t be a two way race. ****

If Rooty is the nominee it'll be a Demoncrat(sic) landslide along the line of LBJ over Goldwater.

As of now Rooty will NOT ...

As to the GWOT, which he's supposedly so tough on - in almost every speech on it he says the way to win it is through ... "Commerce".

He throws that little blurb in every time but the Rudybots only 'hear' "he'll kill all muslims and turn the ME into glass." Which is funny as Rooty has never said anything on what he'd do - except sell them stuff to make them peaceful.

Since Rooty has never been west of the Hudson maybe he thinks they're (terrorists) like the Apache or Arapahos of old.

White man give me beads, blankets and whiskey. White man good. We make peace, smoke pipe!
Rooty is a phony - and a moron.

(no offense to Native Americans)

14 posted on 08/09/2007 7:02:26 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
If Rudy is nominated, there will not be a socially conservative third party.

Wanna bet?

15 posted on 08/09/2007 7:02:28 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (When Romney got done in MA, there were more Green Party candidates than Republican candidates...)
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To: Darvin Dowdy
hit the southwest U.S. border are hard and furious. Get real aggressive on the illegal immigration

kind of tough for a former mayor of a SANCTUARY CITY to have much credibility if he were to do that....

16 posted on 08/09/2007 7:04:04 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: EternalVigilance; Condor51
If Rudy is nominated, I predict that any third party would be only a factor in a very close election, more like Pat Buchanan and Ralph Nader than George Wallace or Ross Perot. It takes a lot of money and more time than is available to generate a third party movement.

Who do you think would be the nominee for your white knight third party?

17 posted on 08/09/2007 7:07:23 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I would rather have Rudy walking over to hill’s podium and lifting his leg on her

And why would he do that? They agree on 90% of the issues!

18 posted on 08/09/2007 7:08:05 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: IrishMike

For me, Rudy is a cut above Ron Paul, but that’s as far as he goes with the republican field. How he is leading in the polls, I can only attribute to people ‘believing’ that he has the best chance to beat Hillary.


19 posted on 08/09/2007 7:09:14 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: org.whodat

Because the 10% that they disagree on may just save this country. Hillary is a known quantity. We have 0 chance of surviving her term.


20 posted on 08/09/2007 7:11:27 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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