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Fossils Older Than Dinosaurs Reveal Pattern Of Early Animal Evolution On Earth (Darwin wrong again)
Science Daily ^ | July 26, 2007

Posted on 07/31/2007 10:18:52 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

...His findings: Overall, approximately 35 percent of the 982 trilobite species exhibited some variation in some aspect of their appearance that was evolving. But more than 70 percent of early and middle Cambrian species exhibited variation, while only 13 percent of later trilobite species did so.

"There's hardly any variation in the post-Cambrian," he said. "Even the presence or absence or the kind of ornamentation on the head shield varies within these Cambrian trilobites and doesn't vary in the post-Cambrian trilobites."...

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: chuchofdarwin; creation; evolution; fossil; intelligentdesign; trilobite
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To: edsheppa

==Then why did you use that phrase? Do you generally say things you don’t “know about?”

Are you being deliberately naive? I was referring to how Soren Luvtrop views Darwin.

==Who is this Lovtrop person anyway? What foundational theory has he formulated?

I already pointed you to his book. He has done what all good scientists do...he has refuted the biggest scientific myth of all time—Darwin’s so-called ToE.


121 posted on 07/31/2007 1:58:59 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: samtheman
Do you think that it's important to reject evolution regardless of its scientific value... reject it on political grounds alone?

Beware! There is a very sly underhanded movement going on to make the term "conservative" synonymous with the term "ignorant" in the perception of the public arena. On a forum like this you never know whether the creationist you are conversing with is an underhanded troll covertly trying to undermine the conservative movement in America or a sadly deluded anti-science paranoid who's been brainwashed by charlatan superstition.

122 posted on 07/31/2007 2:01:42 PM PDT by shuckmaster (The only purpose of the news is to fill the space around the advertisements.)
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To: ok_now
Just because you look at everything in the world you don't understand through the lens of fundamentalist superstition, doesn't mean everyone else does.

Well put.

123 posted on 07/31/2007 2:03:11 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: edsheppa

==Why should I read it? Why shouldn’t I expect it to be filled with creationist nonsense? Just the title is giveaway. Myths aren’t repeatedly confirmed by experience.

He’s an evolutionists. He’s just not a Darwinian evolutionist. And yes, there have been plenty of scientific myths that were repeatedly confirmed by experience until new experience superceded them. Trouble is, the experience of the fossil record falsified Darwin’s myth right from the start.


124 posted on 07/31/2007 2:04:57 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: pacelvi

LOL! I think the creators of South Park were on to something there!!!


125 posted on 07/31/2007 2:08:04 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
I’m not lying. I don’t find the word “church” to be a pejoritive word. I really don’t. But the Darwinists do because they like to pretend that they are not a religion. Am I rubbing their faces in it, you betcha.

You're using it pejoratively. It's there for anyone to see. We also have you presuming to know the mind of all 'Darwinists' and have them all believing that "church" is a bad word, never mind the fact that *millions* of Christians (real ones, mind you, who actually practice the beliefs they hold) are also 'Darwinists' and might take issue with your presumption.

Why don't you let people inform you of their religious affiliation rather than you foisting it upon them? Oh, wait. I know why.

126 posted on 07/31/2007 2:11:41 PM PDT by LibertarianSchmoe ("...yeah, but, that's different!" - mating call of the North American Ten-Toed Hypocrite)
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To: LibertarianSchmoe
The Darwinist Christians need to know they are affiliated with a cult. And the state-sanctioned Darwinists who are using the ACLU to create a legal monopoly and push ID/Creation Science out of our public Schools already hate the Church. As for all the genuine, non-cult affiliated Christians, not a one of them has objected to me using the word church to refer to religious Darwinism. But I will give you one thing...you have set me to thinking about a new, more accurate word to replace church in the Church of Darwin. But I will have to think it through before I implement it. At any rate, thanks for the inspiration!
127 posted on 07/31/2007 2:24:49 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Christianity cannot be reconciled with Evolution.

The Bible teaches us that death entered the world with Adam’s sin. Therefore, nothing died before Adam doomed the creation.


128 posted on 07/31/2007 2:32:20 PM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: pacelvi

==Christianity cannot be reconciled with Evolution.

Very true.


129 posted on 07/31/2007 2:37:32 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: P-40
"Darwin predicted that life would become more diverse over time, like the branches on a tree.

No, Darwin predicted life would become more diverse in a stable environment. He wrote that some changes would "be more successful at exploiting an existing environment or adapting to a changing environment". Darwin was an educated man looking at observable data and trying to postulate an explanation, he was neither an atheist nor the Anti-Christ.

130 posted on 07/31/2007 2:58:09 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

The Imam Mahdi will be the Anti-Christ. I bet he won’t believe in evolution either.


131 posted on 07/31/2007 3:00:46 PM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: shuckmaster; GodGunsGuts

Wow. Pretty strong words. I was just trying to have a friendly conversation. Anyway, GGG answered my question in a way that makes me think that he is, at least, no troll.

As for “brainwashed by charlatan superstition”, I wonder how many “atheists” really know that much science. I suspect very few. They aren’t really “atheists” at all, but (given the fact that they don’t really understand evolution or how it works) merely acolytes of what is for them a new religion. Which is, I think, at least one of GGG’s points.

Not that I agree with his underlying argument. I’m just talking about the vast unwashed majority of “atheists” who look down their noses at “superstition” but, in fact, wouldn’t know a biological adaptation from a spandrel of San Marco.


132 posted on 07/31/2007 3:10:23 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: GodGunsGuts

I guess dishonesty and demagoguery are still the only tools in the anti-science fundamentalist toolbox.


133 posted on 07/31/2007 3:16:11 PM PDT by LibertarianSchmoe ("...yeah, but, that's different!" - mating call of the North American Ten-Toed Hypocrite)
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To: shuckmaster

There, now it makes sense: On a forum like this you never know whether the Darwinists you are conversing with is an underhanded troll covertly trying to undermine the conservative movement in America or a sadly deluded anti-science paranoid who’s been brainwashed by charlatan superstition.


134 posted on 07/31/2007 3:19:40 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: LibertarianSchmoe

Speak for yourself. Darwinism has been thoroughly falsified, which means Darwinists are anti-science by definition.


135 posted on 07/31/2007 3:22:25 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: pacelvi
Christianity cannot be reconciled with Evolution.

I can understand the attractiveness of this position. It gives you the ability to just dispense with the debate. But what I don't understand is, if religion and science cannot be reconciled, why the tremendous effort to do so?
136 posted on 07/31/2007 3:34:19 PM PDT by mutley
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To: mutley

Please explain how you can take

“Christianity cannot be reconciled with Evolution”

and stretch it become

“religion and science cannot be reconciled”

?


137 posted on 07/31/2007 3:35:52 PM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: pacelvi
Please explain how you can take “Christianity cannot be reconciled with Evolution” and stretch it become “religion and science cannot be reconciled”

That's a tough one...but how about this: Christianity is religion, and evolution is science.
138 posted on 07/31/2007 3:41:02 PM PDT by mutley
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To: GodGunsGuts

Where is the evidence of intelligence here?


139 posted on 07/31/2007 3:52:34 PM PDT by null and void (Whale oil: The carbon neutral, renewable petroleum alternative)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Creation doesn’t absolutely guarantee the success of one species in any niche either.

Huh? That doesn't sound very intelligent!

140 posted on 07/31/2007 3:56:04 PM PDT by null and void (Whale oil: The carbon neutral, renewable petroleum alternative)
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