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Protester removed from Fred Thompson event
CNN Political Ticker ^ | 07/25/07 | Steve Brusk

Posted on 07/25/2007 1:34:43 PM PDT by Jokelahoma

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To: dragnet2

What am I? Your teacher?

This isn’t an elementary school room.

I gave you the study materials. So STUDY!

Maybe if you read it, you might learn the answer to the question yourself.


201 posted on 07/25/2007 4:22:22 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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McCain's Media Team Resigns, Further Shaking Up Campaign
202 posted on 07/25/2007 4:24:23 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: VRWCmember
So the CFR just basically sits around and debates, with nothing ever changing, with no power, or influence to change anything in regards to law, politics, government policies etc?

Pretty much

Is that a yes or no?

203 posted on 07/25/2007 4:25:23 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

“I am sure it’s not his fault. His aides haven’t told him yet. The old one just kept getting his message all wrong and haven’t the new ones been busy bringing us things like, well, Comprehensive Immigration Reform.”

pfffft, LOL!...well time’s a wasting and it stands still for no one. Some are beginning to wonder if the elections will come and go before he moves beyond the learning curve ;)


204 posted on 07/25/2007 4:26:24 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: Bigh4u2
So the CFR just basically sits around and debates, with nothing ever changing, with no power, or influence to change anything in regards to law, politics, government policies etc?

What am I? Your teacher?

So you apparently don't know the answer to the above question. OK. No need to get snippy.

205 posted on 07/25/2007 4:27:05 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Jokelahoma

When one is preaching to the choir it is expedient to expel any dissonant notes.


206 posted on 07/25/2007 4:27:52 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: MeanWestTexan
The CFR itself has no “positions.”

So the CFR just basically sits around and debates, with nothing ever changing, with no power, or influence to change anything in regards to law, politics, government policies etc?

207 posted on 07/25/2007 4:28:46 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I can only surmise that you have a learning disability.

It’s the only explanation I can think of as to why you won’t, or can’t, read the link provided.

Oh, well. I guess the old saying ‘ignorance is bliss’ is true.

Have a nice day now. Won’t you?


208 posted on 07/25/2007 4:28:55 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: libbylu
And she is a nut because?

You don't think it is nutty to suggest 9/11 was an inside job? That makes you a nut as well.

209 posted on 07/25/2007 4:30:45 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: dragnet2
Pretty much

Is that a yes or no?

Yes, it is a yes or no.

The extent to which the reports and publications of the CFR influence law, politics, and government policies could be debatable. If it doesn't have any influence, then I guess membership doesn't much matter; If it does have any influence then I sure hope that conservatives are taking part in the discussion, debate, and report generation so that conservative ideas are part of that influence.

As another poster -- who has professed on this thread to be a former member -- has stated, it is a essentially debate society. As with any debate society or think tank, its output may have some influence with various officials and thus may influence law, policies, etc. On the other hand, that influence could simply be to the extent that the output agrees with the existing position of said officials. As an organization, the CFR has no authority and no power to influence or change anything in regards to law, politics, government policies, etc. However, the extent to which you accept this information might depend on your own preconceived ideas about what the CFR is and is not.

210 posted on 07/25/2007 4:33:58 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Bigh4u2
I can only surmise that you have a learning disability.

I have no disabilities.

I only asked you the same simple question above twice. You obviously could not provide an answer on your own. There is no need to attack with statements such as this. You can't answer, fine.

211 posted on 07/25/2007 4:34:53 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Kimberly GG; fetal heart beats by 21st day
His aides haven’t told him yet. The old one just kept getting his message all wrong and haven’t the new ones been busy bringing us things like, well, Comprehensive Immigration Reform.”

pfffft, LOL!...well time’s a wasting and it stands still for no one. Some are beginning to wonder if the elections will come and go before he moves beyond the learning curve ;)

Are you familiar with Fred's position on "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"? What are the differences and similarities between Fred's position on CIR and Duncan Hunter's position?

212 posted on 07/25/2007 4:38:05 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: dragnet2

Do you think the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has America’s best interest in mind?

“”I would say that many of its members have America’s best interest in mind while others are much less concerned with America’s best interest.

You stated some of it’s members are less concerned with Americas best interest.

Is this an American organization? If so, why would members of an American organization not have America’s best interest in mind?”

Well, I’ve been to some public universities, which by definition American institutions, since they receive tax dollars, and THEY frequently dont seem to have America’s best interests in mind.

CFR is a big club of policy wonk-types and others that does a lot of research into a great many political and foreign policy topics. They range all over the map from far left to far right, just like the membership roster does. They do a lot of “what if?” kinds of papers. It’s like a debate club on steroids. The people there are influential people, whether by position or by brainpower. That doesn’t mean that anything they publish means a lot, other than to specialists in the topic discussed. They put out a widely available public journal of what they discuss. It’s as dry as month-old toast to read 99% of the time. In fact, Romney just had something published in it last issue. If I recall correctly, they have thousands of members. If it’s a conspiracy of any sort, it’s not a good one.


213 posted on 07/25/2007 4:39:18 PM PDT by Mr Inviso
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To: VRWCmember
So the CFR just basically sits around and debates, with nothing ever changing, with no power, or influence to change anything in regards to law, politics, government policies etc? Pretty much

Is that a yes or no?

Yes, it is a yes or no.

Uh.....Let me digest that...

Let get get this straight, the CFR has no position on any of the issues, they don't support anything specific, but they might have power or influence over law, and government policies, etc?

214 posted on 07/25/2007 4:41:02 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Mr Inviso
CFR is a big club of policy wonk-types It’s like a debate club on steroids.

Oh, OK.

So the CFR just basically sits around and debates, with nothing ever changing, with no power, or influence to change anything in regards to law, politics, government policies etc?

I ask because I was told several times the CFR has no position on any issue.

215 posted on 07/25/2007 4:44:45 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2; Bigh4u2; MeanWestTexan
Uh.....Let me digest that...

It appears that you are only able to digest very small bites, and leave everything of substance on the plate untouched, and then rephrase your question as if it were a rebuttal to the answers you have been given repeatedly by several different respondants.

216 posted on 07/25/2007 4:46:32 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Jokelahoma

When-Paulestinians-Stop-Taking-Their-Meds Bookmark. ;)


217 posted on 07/25/2007 4:47:29 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: dragnet2
I ask because I was told several times the CFR has no position on any issue.

I think it would be more accurate to say that the CFR has mutliple positions on any issue.

218 posted on 07/25/2007 4:47:41 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: dragnet2

“”So the CFR just basically sits around and debates, with nothing ever changing, with no power, or influence to change anything in regards to law, politics, government policies etc?

Pretty much

Is that a yes or no?””

They occasionally have some influence, depending on the quality of the reports they put out, and the willingness of people in positions of real authority to heed what they say. Let’s say they are a provider of advice, you can either take that advice, or not take it, it’s up to you.

As far as any real, legal, authority in terms of law or any kind of binding actions. Nope. They don’t. Some members might be in positions of power that DO have influence, so in theory they could be swayed by a position paper or some such, but the CFR is not the “Decider”


219 posted on 07/25/2007 4:51:50 PM PDT by Mr Inviso
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To: VRWCmember

When someone doesn’t like an answer, they just keep repeating themselves.

Sound’s like a mental condition to me, but hey, I’m no psychiatrist. So what do I know?

:0|


220 posted on 07/25/2007 4:53:06 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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