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Conservatives, Beware of Fred Thompson
ConservativeHQ ^ | 7-2007 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 07/10/2007 9:06:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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To: Tennessean4Bush
There may be a couple of candidates who are more conservative, but none that have a smidgen of a chance to win the nomination or be elected.

Not as long as the majority Republican voters have that kind of mindset.

But imagine if every conservative voter decided to vote for "THE BEST CHOICE" in the primaries, instead of the "guy most likely to win in the general election".

Just imagine!

But hey, even if the primaries are the one place we can put substance over style and get what we want, this is how we've been trained to think and respond.

So when we settle for an "OK GUY WITH HIGH POLL NUMBERS" we get just that.

I like Fred, but, IMHO, he is not the best we can do. He's (allegedly) the best we can win with.

1,061 posted on 07/11/2007 9:21:26 AM PDT by airborne (COULTER: Actually, my favorite candidate is [Rep.] Duncan Hunter [R-CA], and he is magnificent.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

And yet he hires some of the most notorious that worked with Bush.

Sounds less like do the opposite and more like more of the same.

There’s nothing wrong with hiring seasoned professionals, hiring the one’s he has is questionable.

You may not like it or agree but there are many who do not trust those who helped put Bush in office and rightly so.


1,062 posted on 07/11/2007 9:23:11 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Weeedley

You have no idea what you are talking about.


1,063 posted on 07/11/2007 9:23:57 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Anonymous Rex

And I don’t throw my President under the bus for a couple of issues I disagree with him on. He was right to enter this war and he appointed two solid men to the SC. I won’t disown him completely like some have


1,064 posted on 07/11/2007 9:29:35 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Rudy, Mayor of Sanctuary City)
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To: wolfcreek

Nobody chose Fred Thompson for me. I chose him myself. He went on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace and said he was ‘leaving the door open’ on running for president. I thought it was a good idea. After I got to know him even better, I thought it was a great idea. The same is true of just about all of us who support Thompson.

Thompson was chosen by us. Support who you want, but don’t think you’re alone in choosing candidates for yourself.


1,065 posted on 07/11/2007 9:30:16 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Well Fred’s got a 60-40 lead. I intend to change that -- pissant)
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To: mhking
We are not look for another Ronald Reagan. God sent us a Ronald Reagan when we were desperately needed a Ronald Reagan.

In 2008, we need a Fred Thompson, and God has sent us one.

No liberal lies, propaganda, hissy fits, rants, raves or a MSM tsunami of slander will prevail against Fred’s march to the White House.

Not only that Liberals,but A tidal wave of Conservatives will ride his coat tails into Governorships, the Senate and the house of Representatives.

Kiss your sweaty, funky smelling seats in congress good bye, liberals.

1,066 posted on 07/11/2007 9:36:33 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Repeat after me liberals:" President Fred", "President Fred", President Fred" . Get used to it.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

It took more than a couple of issues for me to throw him under the bus. Many more.

Right to enter the war, wrong to allow our soldiers hands to be tied with respect to fighting it.

Ultimately we wound up with two solid men in spite of the fact that he tried to appoint his friend, an unqualified Harriet Miers.

We could talk about the ports deal, CFR, immigration, etc.


1,067 posted on 07/11/2007 9:53:52 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Still Thinking

‘Do you have a link for that? It would sure make me breath a lot easier.’

No, I read about it in Reagans diaries, which I highly recommend to anyone interested in Presidential politics.

He had a line about Jim Webb,btw. He noted ‘Jim Webb resigned today as under secretary of the Navy. I don’t think the Navy will miss him.’

I laugh about that observation now whenever I hear Webb’s name mentioned.....he also seriously questioned Chriss Dodds allegiance to America, which I found interesting, given Dodds done nothing to change that perception in the twenty something years since that entry.


1,068 posted on 07/11/2007 10:07:03 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: airborne
But hey, even if the primaries are the one place we can put substance over style and get what we want, this is how we've been trained to think and respond.

If a Republican candidate for President cannot raise big money to compete, he is not worth the effort to support because it will take a Republican candidate raising somewhere north of $250 Million dollars to effectively get his message out. The mainstream media that does so much for liberal candidates do nothing or worse for pubs or conservatives. I might love Duncan Hunter. I can send him $50 or $500 bucks if I really love him. If he can convince hundred of thousands of people a quarter to send about $100 each, then he is onto something. He is showing the ability to compete.

Years ago, before big campaign contributions were outlawed, the guy with merely a great record and message could be taken seriously because all he had to do was convince a few wealthy benefactors to support him. Nowadays, like it or not, it is a combination of record, message, and fundraising prowess that all must be considered when determining if a candidate is viable.

1,069 posted on 07/11/2007 10:12:32 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

You make a solid argument, but I still think that as lkong as we pick a candidate by whohas the most cash,we’re selling ourselves to the highest bidder.

And you know full well that all of those millions come with strings attached.

And if you believe that Fred is different, and that he isn’t beholden to special interests, I respectfully disagree.

The only place we have a chance to change things is, IMO, in the primaries.

BTW, if Hunter was the nominee, I believe the GOP and the Republican voters would get behind him with the money he’d need.

But, most likely, the voters are too afraid or lazy to take the chance.


1,070 posted on 07/11/2007 10:23:15 AM PDT by airborne (COULTER: Actually, my favorite candidate is [Rep.] Duncan Hunter [R-CA], and he is magnificent.)
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To: G8 Diplomat
This is the exact quote you attributed to Thompson, which apparently was what some newspaper said about him in 1994, not really what he said:

"He says he thought Roe v. Wade was a bad decision, but also says he’s a pro-choice defender in a pro-life party."

"says he's a pro-choice defender in a pro-life party" sounds like he he still pro-choice. He certainly was pro-choice in 1994, but the evidence since then indicates he has changed. It would be more honest to say that "in 1994 that he was a pro-choice defender in a pro-life party." Even then, he never voted pro-choice in the US Senate.

It is OK to be skeptical, as I am with all candidates. You can call Thompson a flip-flopper, but to be honest, you would also have to call Reagan a flip-flopper.
1,071 posted on 07/11/2007 10:42:58 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: Dick Bachert

He has a strong conservative voting record and is much more loyal to the GOP than McCain. or Rudy.


1,072 posted on 07/11/2007 10:43:06 AM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: Asclepius

I am not “under attack” - are you?


1,073 posted on 07/11/2007 10:47:21 AM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
And I don’t throw my President under the bus for a couple of issues I disagree with him on. He was right to enter this war and he appointed two solid men to the SC. I won’t disown him completely like some have

You're ignoring the fact that if we hadn't complained, he would have appointed his own cronies and not "two solid men". Roberts was his from the start, but the credit for Alito belongs not to W but to us.

I give W full credit for his initiative on the war on terrorists, but fighting for national security abroad means little when you can't be bothered to secure our borders at home.

Add his bloated federal programs, his Kennedy coziness, the elevation of incompetent friends to high office, his bizarre push for amnesty (and the childish namecalling of conservatives who dare to oppose it), and you'll find that it's far from being "a couple of issues". The President's conservative achievements are vastly outnumbered by his liberal boondoggles.

1,074 posted on 07/11/2007 10:52:00 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Romney backtracked on abortion, and that's pretty much it. I suppose you could count his position on a Federal marriage amendment as backtracking. He always opposed gay marraige, but he didn't see a need for a Federal marriage amendment until the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court imposed gay marriage on the Commonwealth by judicial fiat.

As this article points out, Fred backtracked on about 5 issues.

Objectively, Fred is a bigger flip-flopper than Romney, even if your perceptions don't match that reality.

1,075 posted on 07/11/2007 10:57:05 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: airborne
But imagine if every conservative voter decided to vote for "THE BEST CHOICE" in the primaries, instead of the "guy most likely to win in the general election". Just imagine!

Hunter has his problems too. He's a big spender, he voted for CFR type legislation and I still haven't addressed the charge that he's a protectionist.

If Fred runs a non no-nonsense across-the-board conservative campaign then he will be my choice. So far the early indication is that he is running such a campaign.

1,076 posted on 07/11/2007 11:04:24 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Dick Bachert
Fred Thompson is unafraid to challenge the assumption that there is a federal solution for every problem in the United States and the World. Fred sees the importance of confronting Islamic extremism now rather than when they rule the entire Islamic world and will be much more difficult to defeat. Fred realizes that the people of the United States do not trust Congress and the Executive Branch to provide the requisite level of border security and workplace enforcement if they are allowed to “kick the can down the road” by passing a comprehensive amnesty bill. Fred Thompson voting record on gun rights, criminal law, abortion, and other traditional Conservative issues is quite acceptable to me (I can say the same about some others in the race, but they are not viable candidates with national appeal). Fred is well-spoken and articulate. The positions he has espoused during his recent career as a political commentator are nearly indistinguishable from mine. Fred was a prosecutor for many years, and I admire that immensely (as I am one myself).

For these positive and affirmative reasons, I support Fred. I do not support him as the least of all evils in the race. I have some admiration for many of the candidates including Gulliani (on homeland security and budget management), McCain (on his consistent support of the military and the war effort), Romney (if he could cut back on bureaucracy in Mass., he might make headway in DC), and Hunter and Paul (both good, solid conservatives). These others, however, do not excite me like Fred. Fred has charisma and a dedication to reducing the size, scope, and expense of government that excite me more than any candidate since Reagan. I knew both Bushes as well as Dole were not really small government conservatives, but I supported them as the least of the evils in the race. I urge Fred to run - as he really isn’t even a candidate yet - because he seems more likely to advance the Reagan revolution than any candidate in the last 20 years.

There is at least one potential candidate out there who might actually fit my politics better than Fred. That would be Newt Gingrich. Because of his highly confrontational, partisan past and moral lapses, though, I do not believe he is electable.

I know there are those out there who do not consider Fred conservative enough. There are even more who wear Che Guevara T-shirts and think Hillary is way too conservative for them. Such is life. That does not in any way diminish my enthusiasm for a Fred Thompson candidacy. As long as he continues to espouse values and positions that I share, I will continue to support him.

Sorry, Dick.

1,077 posted on 07/11/2007 11:07:01 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: curiosity
As this article points out, Fred backtracked on about 5 issues. Objectively, Fred is a bigger flip-flopper than Romney, even if your perceptions don't match that reality.

Thompson has long been against Roe v. Wade. Thompson seems to have flipped on CFR. Besides that I don't see any flip-flops.

BTW, if you want objectivity, this article by this author, isn't it.

1,078 posted on 07/11/2007 11:07:30 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: pissant

And Duncan has no idea how to win the primary of his own party.


1,079 posted on 07/11/2007 11:16:25 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: juliej
Thompson on the Sean Heanady show yesturday.

Sean: big MSM is starting to write hit pieces against you. Fred: They know who they need to fear!

1,080 posted on 07/11/2007 11:19:55 AM PDT by Weeedley
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