Posted on 07/10/2007 9:06:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
I realize that I will most likely get the living crap kicked outta me for even POSTING this but, in the interests of providing another point-of-view on an emerging candidate, I feel honesty -- and prudence -- requires a close examination of voting patterns and records so, as in the Who song of years ago, "We Won't be Fooled Again."
Viguerie has proven himself to be an accurate and competent researcher and purveyor of factual information in the past. I have no reason to believe he is treating Fred Thompson any differently.
Must hurry now and don my ASBESTOS UNDIES nnd NOMEX suit in anticipation of the impending 2000 degree flames heading my way.
We don’t shoot the messenger......now as for the author of the article, he’s fair game.
Better Fred than dead.
I take it this guy thinks only hardliners and Reagan worshipers vote.
Go for it.
Please post ANY — and I do mean ANY — inaccuracies or falsehoods you find in any of this piece.
"I am warning you Conservatives! BEWARE this Fred Thompson fellow. He is pro-Gun Contr....errr....Hey, watch out! Thompsen is pro-Aborti......errr....ahhhhh. Listen to me - I am warning you! This guy is pro-Homosexual Marriag....errrr....ummmmmm."
I realize that I will most likely get the living crap kicked outta me for even POSTING this
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Absolutely
Who the hell are you to spead rumors?
This article is a plant by the democrat underground.
Why spread this Sh#@!
take it down.
I realize that I will most likely get the living crap kicked outta me for even POSTING this
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Absolutely
Who the hell are you to spead rumors?
This article is a plant by the democrat underground.
Why spread this Sh#@!
take it down.
Kinda thin stuff, don’cha think?
BTW—Fred’s backtracked on most of the bad stuff, like McCain/Feingold.
That’s all ya got?
ABOUT THE AUTHOR - (Wikipedia)
Viguerie founded Conservative Digest magazine in 1975 and served as its publisher for ten years. Opposing President Gerald Ford’s election, Viguerie in 1976 unsuccessfully sought the presidential nomination of the American Independent Party (that had been formed eight years earlier by George Wallace). [1]
In 1977 he worked on a project to raise money for Sun Myung Moon’s Children’s Relief Fund, which reportedly only received 6.3% of the $1,508,256 raised. $920,000 went to Viguerie according to New York State charity auditors.[4][5]
Viguerie sought the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor of Virginia in 1985, but did not receive the nomination at the GOP state convention.
Asked by Campaigns and Elections in May 2000 what his immediate goals were Viguerie answered “To use the Internet to involve Americans in the political process, to help conservatives gain an advantage over the left. To fight against government’s use of power, to fight for individual rights and responsibilities, and to fight to extend the blessings of liberty throughout the world.”[1]
Writing in The Nation, David Corn noted that Viguerie “raised money for Judicial Watch” and is associated with Larry Klayman, conservative lawyer and activist and Republican candidate for the US Senate from Florida in 2004.[6]
Viguerie has long been associated with conservative activist Howard Phillips through creation of the Moral Majority in 1979.
Let the rebuttal’s begin...as a former E.TN conservative, the mentorship of RINO’s like Howard Baker and Lamar Alexander does make my skin crawl!
Be sure to let us all know what YOUR research in the Congressional Record indicates are Fred’s actual votes on these issues.
Or is your position, my mind’s made up so how DARE you confuse me with FACTS.
That’s SUPPOSED to be how the dims operate: On emotion.
I hear what you're saying. Just what the world needs, another "pragmatic moderate conservative".
As the Rudybots like to remind us, No candidate is perfect. Fred Thompson is a friend of John McInsane, and supported him on a lot of issues. That can lead a person in a lot of wrong directions.
That said, he ain’t Rudy Guiliani or John McInsane, and I’m willing to support him in the General. (I’ll be votin’ for Duncan Hunter in the Primary, most likely.)
First off, his votes are NOT that inconsistent with the image he has right now as a ‘08 contender. As we’ve said before, many of Fred’s votes were based in either a Federalist, “should-the-government-get-involved” point of view, or on Fred’s vast understanding of law. Also, as with any politician, some of his votes were probably because something in the bill wasn’t right.
Let’s be fair to him, and let him address them. I think that’s the standard we hold Rudy McRomney to.
Secondly, like it or not, the idea of Republican Conservatism, from what the vast unwashed public believes, is a major negative right now. I see Fred Thompson as the ONLY candidate/potential candidate who is communicating conservative ideas in a way that is appealing to the masses.
Third, out of the entire field, he’s by far the most conservative, ELECTABLE guy out there.
Any of these arguments made against Thompson apply WORSE for Giuliani.
McCain? He’s nuts and fading fast.
Romney? Well, Mitt’s my second-choice guy, but honestly, the man is a bit too slick for me, seemed undedicated to his job as governor, and I think the Mormon thing is more of an issue (not for me, but for some) than we care to admit. In and of itself, it’s overcome-able, but he has a lot of what appear to be flip-flops. Too many and too recent of a conversion, whereas Fred has not really “changed” on anything, rather, he has reasons for doing what he did then and now. To be fair, I’m sure Romney did as well, and that’s why he’s my second-in-line guy, but I really just don’t trust him, he seems too “slick” if that makes any sense.
Nobody else in the field is honestly worth discussing, whether we like to hear it or not. Discussing Hunter or Tancredo is like discussing what you’d do if you won the lottery: It’s a lot of fun fantasizing, but it’s just not going to happen.
Are you so sure? I’ve heard some of these things from people who are conservatives and who like Fred. Plus, Fred himself has said that he did not show the leadership he should have on some of these occasions. I didn’t read the whole thing and I wouldn’t be surprised if there were things I’d take issue with. Plus, I think that you could take the best leader in the world, peruse his or her record and come up with a list that makes that person look terrible. But that wouldn’t make the list untrue. Republicans should vote carefully and should not bury their necks in the sand. Nor should they believe everything they read. Use caution and pray for wisdom.
Two problems with this article.
First is, it’s simply overstated and cherry-picked. Thompson scores solidly conservative across, or overwhelming agreed-in-votes with the positions taken by, a broad array of righty lobbies (Natl Taxpayers Union, Citizens Against Govt Waste, Heritage, American Enterprise Institute, American Conservative Union, several pro-life organizations).
Second is more relative: Whom ELSE are we to choose? Not Rudy, surely. Duncan Hunter probably cannot win. So that leaves Romney ... who may be just fine, mind you, but just imagine how Viguerie would savage ROMNEY if he thinks Fred! is so terrible.
Mainstream media types assure us that he is [the next Ronald Reagan].
Which MSM type assures us of this. They are attacking FT with the same charges this guy repeats.
I say beware of conservatives that attack other conservatives who use liberal talking points in their attacks against other conservatives.
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