I am amazed at the reaction to this “proclamation” on this a supposedly conservative forum. What we are seeing in the church is the same as what is going on in our government.
Liberalism has polluted both church and state. Liberals take away and then throw us a bone and everyone is so happy. As one who has scars from the battles - a modernist priest told me that if I didn’t accept the changes, that I should find another church. I told him, with as much respect as he deserved, F’ you and walked out. I have fought with priests, bishops and cardinals. I’ve fought in court. Finally, I walked away and let the whole thing go to H*ll in a handbasket.
Now, this clown Ratzinger, who was responsible for all the destruction, is going to give me “permission” to go to a service in Latin. Of course, it has to be the failed liturgy translated back into Latin and some clown who doesn’t know jack will fumble through the service and make a mockery of it. Hurry up, we have to finish in time for the guitar mass.
In the words of the eloquent General MacAuliffe - “NUTS!”
“Now, this clown Ratzinger...”
Sorry bucko, that ‘clown’ is the Supreme Pontiff. I agree with Bp. Fellay, this is a time to rejoice.
Yes, you are.
You should do something about that bitterness. It’s destroying you.
I know how angry you must feel, because I felt the same way for years. However, you should read what the MP says. The Mass for which general permission is being given is the old one, not a Latin translation of the new one. (The new one, lame though it be, can already be said in Latin, btw, and often is.)
Ratzinger participated in the Council, but he, like many others, thought that the renewal of the Mass that was being considered would be the generalization of things like the restoration of Gregorian chant, perhaps a dialogue mass where the people said the altar boy’s responses, and a few minor changes. He was not one of the Bugnini party and was not powerful enough to have done anything to stop Bugnini. Obviously, nobody else was, either, including Paul VI.
Enjoy this moment, try to find some place that is saying the Old Mass - or some individual priest in your diocese who offers a private Tridentine Rite mass but quietly announces it to the faithful so they can come and participate - and try to get some trust and hope back in your life. Then you can go out and do battle! Finally, after all these many years, we have some support, and I think there is many a layperson and many a priest rejoicing right now.
“Finally, I walked away and let the whole thing go to H*ll in a handbasket.”
Looks like you have all the answers and don’t really need a church.
Ah, then that must make you the "real" Pope. I'll notify the press ...
2. You need to get a handle on that anger.
3. If you think BXVI is a "clown", you also need a reality check.
4. Liberals get what they want by incrementalism. BXVI carefully worked to get as much back as possible by incrementalism. Don't complain because he didn't get the whole schmeer all at once -- it's like complaining that your drink in the lifeboat doesn't have a little umbrella in it.
Your anger is appropriate for one outside God's love (ie His Church). Telling a priest "F you", even a lib priest, is still a gross lack of respect for the office, and a sentiment we don't need in the Church Christ founded. If you are going to let the evil of our enemies infest you, better that you stay away from the faithful then be a cause of scandal.
Amend your heart or tie a mill-stone around it, but don't waist time by frothing obscenities and mocking the Vicar of Christ. You mock His servants and you mock Him.