Posted on 07/03/2007 3:22:21 PM PDT by kellynla
WE'RE not fighting a single war against terrorists. We're stuck in two. The past few days saw both conflicts hit the headlines. And we're still not serious about either one. One war in this global struggle involves Sunni-Arab fanatics, exemplified by al Qaeda, who believe not only that the atrocities they commit will revive the caliphate - a romanticized religious empire - but that their merciless brand of Islam is destined to rule the world.
Our other fight is with Shia extremists, such as the god-gangsters wrecking Iran, Muqtada al-Sadr's thugs and Hezbollah. Their goals are regional (for now): They want to master the heart of the Middle East and gain hegemony over the world's oil supply.
In London, then in Glasgow, we saw attempts (blessedly incompetent ones - thanks, Allah!) to generate mass civilian casualties, challenge Britain's new government and strengthen the U.K.'s appeasement faction. The terrorists involved weren't the "wretched of the earth" beloved in left-wing mythology, but included at least two doctors, as well as other middle-class immigrants.
Behind all the jihadi nonsense, this was a revenge plot by madmen for imagined wrongs. Like all religious fanatics, the would-be murderers (burn, baby, burn) weren't really serving any god, but acting out their struggle with personal demons. It was classic Sunni terrorism - 9/11 re-invented by the Three Stooges.
In the Shia terror war, a U.S. military spokesman in Iraq yesterday finally admitted the serious role that Iran and its clients play in the bombing, kidnapping and cold-blooded murder of our troops. Back in March, our forces busted Ali Mussa Daqduq - a Hezbollah bomb, ambush and abduction expert - in Basra. He wasn't on vacation.
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Semper Fi, Kelly
Realistically, the American people won’t go there. They should, but they won’t. It will all come down to how much American blood we are willing to spend to ensure others freedom. The long term connection to our own self-interest is too vague for people to handle. We’ve had a “Gulf-of-Tonkin” incident before, and are wary, and now, we are indeed weary of the WOT. I wish it wasn’t so, but that’s the way it is. Sorry Ralph. Invade Iran and elect Hilary. That’s what would happen. Attack Iran and elect governments in Urope which are even less friendly to us than we have now. Britain under Brown is not going to be like Britain under Blair, etc.
TWO WARS - AND NO LEADERSHIP(RALPH PETERS)
“Realistically, the American people won’t go there?”
Just like the issue of the Japanese and 12/7/1941,
one more 9/11 terrorist attack and Americans will demand that every foreign muzzie be deported to whatever hellhole they originated from.
Our ancestors didn’t risk life & limb to emigrate to this country just so a bunch of camel jockeys could come here, terrorize our women & children and make hamburger out of our families. No, “RKV”, just like baseball, “three strikes and you’re outa here” will apply to the muzzies too!
And anyone who doesn’t like it can have a good cry over it.
Semper Fi,
Kelly
I hope you are right about the deportation business. I wish that is what we would do. I doubt it will happen. We can’t even handle the invaders from Mexico. And they are invading us, and have been for a long time. The trick to beating the US is to use the lobster treatment. Go ever so slowly and we won’t take notice. I wish I was wrong.
I can't imagine what would be special enough to make us really do what needs to be done in fighting back against Islam. Iraq was a fluke brought on by 9/11, and while we handled the war beautifully, I think we blew it all by giving away the peace.
There are two things that will keep Islam at bay: the military has got to make any Islamic country quake in its boots at the thought of touching us (no more hearts and minds), and the US has got to make Muslims - foreign born or domestic - realize that even a tiny jihadi moment will send them and their families either out of the US permanently or to jail. In fact, I think the US should deport all foreign born Muslims, revoking their US citizenship if necessary, and put domestic Muslims under surveillance.
Needless to say, none of the above is going to happen. We'll be an Islamic country in about 15 years, max. The world is going dark with Islam, and I think it's going to happen in the lifetimes of most of us, not because of lack of capacity to fight back, but because of lack of will.
I wish you were right but I am afraid that couldn't be farther from the truth. It is so clear to normal patriotic Americans what needs to be done. At the same time it becoming increasingly clearer to this American what will be done.....NOTHING. America was great. You may not recognize it but she is dead. Not "dying".... dead. We are not watching her death throes. We are watching her bloated carcass being picked apart by the muzzies, chinese, mexicans, russians and other 3rd world scavengers.
Nonsense. Do you plan to convert to Islam in the next 15 years? Do any of your friends, relatives, or neighbors? Can you know anyone who would?
CanDo you know anyone who would?
I think we’ll be surprised at how many people will go along to get along. Most people have absolutely no beliefs anyway.
The Muslims will get power in the US by gradually imposing sharia in areas in which they have some presence and then making general demands supported by leftists; I don’t think there’ll be a lot of terrorism or fighting here.
They have already scattered mosques all over the country, some of them big, but many of them tiny little things in places with no Muslim population. Mostly they have bought no longer used rural black churches, and they probably don’t have much more than a Saudi sponsored caretaker and a couple of Muslim doctors from the local hire-a-foreign-doctor program. But they are projecting themselves throughout our country, and we will probably simply be taken over by inertia. The left and the press are 100% on their side, and I really don’t see an effective opposition from conservatives.
And then, of course, we have people like Grover Norquist, who claims to be a conservative but is probably a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Saudi government.
Not everyone is going to be Muslim, of course, but I would bet that the UK will become officially Muslim first and that the US will not be far behind.
Since on any given Sunday only 18% of Americans attend worship services it is possible. If an agnostic secularist or Christian in name only were given the choice of beheading or conversion I believe that a sizable portion of the 82% would convert. If they will root for the muzzies to embarrass the president they will certainly join with them to save their heads.
BTW do you see how secularist women leaders dress when they travel to Muhammad country. They are more than willing to "Burqa up".
Unfortunately, he’s right.
You would lose that bet.
CAIR says there are about 7 million Muslims in the United States. That number is almost surely inflated; 2 million is probably closer to the truth. But even if we accept CAIR's number, that is less than 2.5% of the population. Perhaps a third are American-born blacks who have joined the Nation of Islam. (Do we deport them? If so, where?)
Now, are you really worried that 2.5% (or 0.67%) of the population is going to be able to impose sharia law on the rest of us?
If so, then we have bigger problems than a few million Muslims living among us.
I can’t imagine what would be special enough to make us really do what needs to be done in fighting back against Islam. Iraq was a fluke brought on by 9/11, and while we handled the war beautifully, I think we blew it all by giving away the peace.
We were in a state of war with Iraq since 1991...just finishing the job
I can’t imagine what would be special enough to make us really do what needs to be done in fighting back against Islam. Iraq was a fluke brought on by 9/11, and while we handled the war beautifully, I think we blew it all by giving away the peace.
We were in a state of war with Iraq since 1991...just finishing the job
Then that is the real problem. If you are really worried, perhaps you should be pushing for a revival of Christianity in this country.
If an agnostic secularist or Christian in name only were given the choice of beheading or conversion I believe that a sizable portion of the 82% would convert. If they will root for the muzzies to embarrass the president they will certainly join with them to save their heads.
But who is going to go around threatening to cut off the heads of infidels who do not convert? There are many more non-Muslims than Muslims in this country.
I know some Muslims. They are good people. They do not frighten me. In fact, I am much more worried by our own domestic Left than Muslims. Besides, if anyone ever did threaten to cut off my head, I am well armed.
BTW do you see how secularist women leaders dress when they travel to Muhammad country. They are more than willing to "Burqa up".
The key is that they dress that way in a foreign country. They do not dress that way at home. Why not respect the local customs when visiting another country?
brownie will not be in power long... the Brits will turn on Labor as soon as real blood flows in the streets... and it will, I am deeply afraid.
LLS
Why not respect the local customs when visiting another country
Would you wear a rag on your head if you visited the ME? The people you are referring to (Hillary, Nancy, Chelsea, Madeline) don't respect any of our customs, why would they respect muslim ones? I think it has more to do with fear and submission than respect or reverence.
A rag? No. But if the locals are offended by those who go bareheaded, I would certainly wear an appropriate hat.
Look, there are places in the world where women may go topless in public. There are places in this country where women would be arrested for the same behavior. Are you saying that a foreigner should not have to abide by our laws when visiting our country?
The people you are referring to (Hillary, Nancy, Chelsea, Madeline) don't respect any of our customs, why would they respect muslim ones? I think it has more to do with fear and submission than respect or reverence.
Perhaps. But could it be that our society no longer has customs or standards of dress that we are willing to uphold?
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