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Brown: Don't Say Terrorists Are Muslims
Daily Express ^ | Tuesday, July 2, 2007 | By Macer Hall, Political Editor

Posted on 07/03/2007 9:36:19 AM PDT by Eurotwit

Gordon Brown has banned ministers from using the word “Muslim” in ­connection with the ­terrorism crisis.

The Prime Minister has also instructed his team – including new Home Secretary Jacqui Smith – that the phrase “war on ­terror” is to be dropped.

The shake-up is part of a fresh attempt to improve community relations and avoid offending Muslims, adopting a more “consensual” tone than existed under Tony Blair.

However, the change provoked claims last night that ministers are indulging in yet more political correctness.

The sudden shift in tone emerged in comments by Mr Brown and Ms Smith in the wake of the failed attacks in London and Glasgow.

Mr Brown’s spokesman acknowledged yesterday that ministers had been given specific guidelines to avoid inflammatory language.

“There is clearly a need to strike a consensual tone in relation to all communities across the UK,” the spokesman said. “It is important that the country remains united.”

He confirmed that the phrase “war on terror” – strongly associated with Mr Blair and US President George Bush – has been dropped.

Officials insist that no direct links with Muslim extremists have been publicly confirmed by police investigating the latest attempted terror attacks. Mr Brown himself did not refer to Muslims or Islam once in a BBC TV interview on Sunday. Ms Smith also avoided any such reference in her statement to MPs yesterday.

She said: “Let us be clear – terrorists are criminals, whose victims come from all walks of life, communities and religions. Terrorists attack the values shared by all law-abiding citizens. As a Government, as communities, as individuals, we need to ensure that the message of the terrorists is rejected.”

Tory backbencher Philip Davies said: “I don’t know what purpose is served by this. I don’t think we need pussyfoot around when talking about ­terrorism.”

But former Tory homeland security spokesman Patrick Mercer said: “This is quite a smart idea. We know that the vast majority of Muslims are not involved in terrorism and we have to accept there are sensitivities about these matters.”


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Foolish and weak, yeah Gordon, that will put the Islamofascists inline, don’t call the m out by name and everything will be “a o-tay”.

I can see why Eurostan will be a reality, I’ve shatted with Euros for years now, and they simply don’t see the problem.

The muslims are willing to die for their beliefs, Atheistic UK doesn’t believe in anything..you tell me who is going to win that battle.....


61 posted on 07/03/2007 9:49:57 AM PDT by padre35 (Quod autem isti dicunt non interponendi vos bello)
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To: Eurotwit

Does he think hiding the truth in PC rhetoric is going to protect them?


62 posted on 07/03/2007 9:50:23 AM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: Eurotwit
When will the Prime Minister draft the terms of surrender to the terrorists, er, I mean criminals? (Yeah, that's the ticket!)
63 posted on 07/03/2007 9:51:37 AM PDT by MMK_Guy
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To: Let's Roll
"Where did they find this pussy?"

Sir William Wallace is rolling over in his graves. I use the term graves since he was drawn and quartered, and parts of his body shipped all over England.

64 posted on 07/03/2007 9:53:03 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Billthedrill
The latest bunch in GB happened to be laughably incompetent, and even they came within two blasting caps of a major tragedy. The next bunch might not be.

I think that we're all in a sort of Middle Period in the war on terror. We shall limp along, slapping a few wrists, suffering some low-level casualties for some period of time. Eventually, one or two of our larger cities will be atomized. And then we shall enter the Late Period in the war on terror.

65 posted on 07/03/2007 9:53:12 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: Eurotwit

Denial in Britain
By Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com | July 3, 2007

In the wake of the two bomb-rigged cars discovered in London and the flaming jeep that crashed into a Glasgow airport terminal, the terror threat level in Britain has been raised to critical. British authorities are continuing to search for suspects, and haven’t ruled out the possibility that more catastrophic attacks are being planned, and could be imminent. Authorities have noted similarities between these events and past jihad terror plots, are investigating a possible link between one of the would-be car bombers and Islamic jihad terrorist Dhiren Barot, who is serving a life sentence for an Al-Qaeda-backed plot to bomb the World Bank, New York Stock Exchange, and headquarters of the International Monetary Fund, among other targets.

As has become the pattern in such cases, authorities brushed aside and declined to consider the implications of evidence that the events in London and Glasgow were motivated by the ideology of Islamic jihad. Daud Abdullah, the Deputy Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), suggested that the religion of the attackers was incidental to their actions when he said: “Let’s not create a hypothetical problem…it can be the work of Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists.” The new British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, appeared to agree, saying that new efforts had to be undertaken to win the “hearts and minds” of Muslims. “We have got to separate,” he added, “those great moderate members of our community from a few extremists who wish to practice violence and inflict maximum loss of life in the interests of a perversion of their religion.” The new First Minister of Scotland, Alex Salmond, assured Muslims in Scotland that no community would be “scapegoated” in the wake of the Glasgow Airport attack. “In Scotland,” he maintained, “the Muslim community is part of the fabric of society, and is hugely important for social life, and this community link will remain strong.” London Mayor Ken Livingstone went even farther, asserting: “In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims.”

These words were no doubt reassuring to Mohammad Sarwar, a Glasgow politician and a member of Parliament until he stepped down in late June after receiving death threats from Muslims over his aid with the prosecution of a group of Muslim murderers. Despite this unpleasantly close encounter with Islamic extremism, Sarwar seemed more concerned about actions by non-Muslims against Muslims. Announcing that Muslim leaders in Scotland were coming together at a hastily-convened meeting in Glasgow, he explained: “They’re concerned about a backlash and that’s why the emergency meeting has been called.”

Osama Saeed of the Muslim Association of Britain, meanwhile, expressed exasperation at the fact that non-Muslims expected Muslims to be active in opposing terror activities within the Islamic community: “We are seething with anger about this,” he said – that is, about the idea that jihad plots should be seen as a challenge to the larger Islamic community to do more against terrorism, not about the jihad plots themselves. “As a community,” he said, “not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else, but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this. We are sick of being defined as a community by terrorism and having to answer for it.”

Saeed’s anger was ironic in light of the haste with which Brown, Livingstone, and Salmond drew distinctions between the Muslim community in Britain and those who were behind the London and Glasgow jihad plots. As the plots continued to be investigated over the weekend, no British officials were saying anything at all about the need for Muslims in Britain to redouble their efforts to teach against the jihad ideology of Islamic supremacism, to formulate new understandings of the Qur’an and Sunnah, rejecting the literal and mainstream legal interpretations of a large number of passages, to renounce any intention to impose Sharia in Britain at any time in the future, and to work much more closely with British authorities in order to root out jihadists from their ranks. In Britain, only the ex-jihadist Hassan Butt, who now calls himself a moderate Muslim, spoke more realistically about what needs to be done: “It isn’t enough for Muslims to say that because they feel at home in Britain they can simply ignore those passages of the Koran which instruct on killing unbelievers. By refusing to challenge centuries-old theological arguments, the tensions between Islamic theology and the modern world grow larger every day.”

The official silence about the Islamic element of the attacks was all the more curious in light of the revelation that British authorities were deeply concerned by the fact that the London and Glasgow plotters had no clear or readily discernable ties to terror groups: they were “off the radar.” One remarked: “If there is no trace then this means the terrorism situation in the UK is much worse than we have believed.” Indeed it is, because no Muslim group in the United Kingdom or elsewhere has drawn a distinction between themselves and the jihadists that is sufficiently sharp to prevent those jihadists from moving freely among the peaceful Muslims. They have not expelled jihadists from mosques, and they have not instituted comprehensive, compulsory programs to teach against the jihad ideology. And since the threat is not being challenged at the ideological level, it is entirely possible for a peaceful Muslim to turn into a jihadist under the noses of authorities — as Mike Hawash and others have done in the U.S.

The problem is, therefore, much bigger than British authorities think, and much bigger than they are even now willing to admit. Until they are willing to face the fact that attackers such as those we have seen in Britain over the last few days couldn’t just as well have been Buddhists, but rather arise from the Islamic community and base their actions upon Islamic principles, they will not be dealing with the root of this problem realistically, and we are going to see many more attacks. “I believe,” said Butt, “that the issue of terrorism can be easily demystified if Muslims and non-Muslims start openly to discuss the ideas that fuel terrorism.” Do Brown, Livingstone, Salmond and the rest have the courage to do this?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=28982


66 posted on 07/03/2007 9:53:20 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Eurotwit

3 separate attacks on innocent people and the govt is talking warm fuzzies to terrorists. Egads! Next time the islamic murderers will try harder.


67 posted on 07/03/2007 9:54:13 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Maceman

Tony Soprano is as much a soulless animal as any Muslim terrorist. Not even the, “Yeah, but he’s OUR SOB” line is going to cut it. They live and breathe evil, so they should all die.


68 posted on 07/03/2007 9:54:18 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Eurotwit
But former Tory homeland security spokesman Patrick Mercer said: “This is quite a smart idea. We know that the vast majority of Muslims are not involved in terrorism and we have to accept there are sensitivities about these matters.”

What constitutes a "vast majority"? At least a very large minority SUPPORT the actions of the jihadis. And an even larger number want to see British law replaced by Sharia. Ignoring the ideology that motivates and sustains terrorists is folly. It's like refusing to mention Nazism in WWII and calling it the "War on Blitzkrieg". But I guess even that would be too controversial for this bunch. I suppose WWII was just an "action to bring war criminals to justice".

69 posted on 07/03/2007 9:54:30 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est.)
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To: Eurotwit
Latest from the BBC:

One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the Jihadis will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new Muslim overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in dhiminitude.

70 posted on 07/03/2007 9:54:47 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

If the conservatives in this world don’t wake up to these spineless PC libs one day we will wake up and we will have passed the point of no return.


71 posted on 07/03/2007 9:55:08 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism)
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To: USF
Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises and may necessitate extensive cleaning of the house and disposal of household items.

Then, maybe they should begin using bomb-sniffing pigs


72 posted on 07/03/2007 9:55:24 AM PDT by GOPmember
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To: Eurotwit
It takes two to tango. You can wish all you want Brown and silence your people to the truth, but for the most part, Muslims LOOK for reasons to be offended and are excellent at blowing up (no pun intended) even without the poor excuse that they're offended.

They're NOT going to meet you half-way if that's what you're thinking!

On another note, I wonder if having the govt use weasel words is going to change the minds of the 1700 critical terror personnel/plots that MI5/MI6 and Scotland Yard are investigating.

Hmmmmmm.

73 posted on 07/03/2007 9:56:25 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: Eurotwit
"The Muslims like me! They really, really like me!"


74 posted on 07/03/2007 9:56:48 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG (Apparently my former party considers me an "ugly nativist".)
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To: Cicero

How long before it all comes tumbling down and a nuke is set off by the people who can’t be called muslims?


75 posted on 07/03/2007 9:57:40 AM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: Eurotwit
“There is clearly a need to strike a consensual tone in relation to all communities across the UK,” the spokesman said. “It is important that the country remains united.”

News Bulletin to Spokesmoron:
Your country is NOT united, nor has it ever been, so your excuse for stupidity is invalid. The Islamofascists in your midst that you choose to not see have NO intention of EVER assimilating into your society or "uniting" in any way shape or form. They just want to kill your infidel @ss and take your country over to join it with the worldwide caliphate. PC nonsense and piss-yourself-and-hide-under-the-bed tactics aren't going to stop this, so wake up and defend yourselves before it's too late.

76 posted on 07/03/2007 9:58:28 AM PDT by MCH
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To: Eurotwit
Apparently, Muslims are offended by everything we do. Why pretend we can stop it?
77 posted on 07/03/2007 9:59:07 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: Eurotwit

If you listen to the official sources, the only thing these terrorists have in common is that they are physicians working under a system of socialized medicine. That explains everything.


78 posted on 07/03/2007 9:59:27 AM PDT by csn vinnie
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To: dirtboy

“Muslim” IngSoc ungood.

Mini Tru

Long Live Big Brother!


79 posted on 07/03/2007 10:01:06 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: x_plus_one
The military experts in the "know" state that Europe is gone in the 5 to 7 year timeframe, it will be mass all out violence and societal collapse, it is coming, next America falls, and nothing will (that can) stop it.
80 posted on 07/03/2007 10:01:59 AM PDT by Scythian
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