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Mars rover to make risky crater descent (Opportunity ready to descend into Victoria Crater)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/28/07 | Jon Antczak - ap

Posted on 06/28/2007 5:22:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

LOS ANGELES - NASA's aging but durable Mars rover Opportunity will make what could be a trip of no return into a deep impact crater as it tries to peer further back than ever into the Red Planet's geologic history.

The descent into Victoria Crater received the go-ahead because the potential scientific returns are worth the risk that the solar-powered, six-wheel rover might not be able to climb out, NASA officials and scientists said Thursday.

The vehicle has been roaming Mars for nearly 3 1/2 Earth years. Scientists and engineers want to send it in while it still appears healthy.

"This crater, Victoria, is a window back into the ancient environment of Mars," said Alan Stern, the NASA associate administrator who authorized the move.

"Entering this crater does come with some unknowns," Stern added. "We have analyzed the entry point but we can't be certain about the terrains and the footing down in the crater until we go there. We can't guarantee, although we think we are likely to come back out of the crater."

Opportunity and its twin, Spirit, have been exploring opposite sides of Mars since landing in January 2004, discovering geologic evidence of rocks altered by water from a long-ago wetter period of the now-dusty planet.

Blasted open by a meteor impact, Victoria Crater is a half-mile across and about 200 to 230 feet deep — far deeper than anything else the rovers have explored.

"Because it's deeper it provides us access to just a much longer span of time," said Steve Squyres, the principal investigator of the Mars Exploration Rover mission from Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y. He said it's not known just how much time is represented in the crater's layered walls.

Opportunity's first target will be a band of bright material like a bathtub ring about 10 feet below the crater's rim.

"That was the original, pre-impact surface so this bright stuff is the stuff that was in contact with the Martian atmosphere at the time Victoria formed, which may have been billions of years ago," Squyres said.

The initial entry is expected on July 7 or 9. To get into the crater, the rover will have to safely cross a ripple of wind-formed material at the lip of the crater, the kind of feature that has given it trouble before. The team plans to initially drive only far enough to have all six wheels on the slope and then back up to the top, to analyze how it performed.

"We call that a toe dip," said John Callas, the rover project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena.

Since inception, the twin-rover mission has cost more than $900 million, and now costs $20 million to $24 million annually. Planned to last 90 days, the mission is in its fourth extension and another proposal would continue operations to the end of October 2008.


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To: NormsRevenge
These little guys have done so much already that the mere idea of giving them any further tasks, or of 'extending' them yet again is miraculous and worthy of praise and pride in what CAN be done.

Note that no one is extending the rovers, they are extending our involvement in them - the rovers seem to be doing OK under current guidance.

21 posted on 06/28/2007 9:49:52 PM PDT by norton
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To: NormsRevenge

Sorry Norm, gotta call you on something. They had a 90 DAY design lifetime. They’re in the neighbourhood of 4 years now. I’d say that’s a little more than 3 or 4 times :D:D:D. I read an article on Space.com recently by one of the investigators (read scientists) that was rather emotional about the prospect of losing these little guys. Even with bigger and better rovers on the way. Spirit and Opportunity have done well with very little. Just goes to show you what a little bit of scientific know-how can do for you!


22 posted on 06/28/2007 10:11:04 PM PDT by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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To: AntiKev

Thanks for the correction. Incredibly durable little buggers. a pretty good investment indeed.


23 posted on 06/28/2007 10:25:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: AntiKev

Are they both still going? Didn’t Spirit have some problems with the wheels or something?


24 posted on 06/28/2007 10:28:22 PM PDT by djf (Bush's legacy: Way more worried about Iraqs borders than our own!!! A once great nation... sad...)
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To: djf

A wheel that has to be “dragged”, a dead battery warmer, an arm that has to be over powered to work, wear on grinding tools....


25 posted on 06/28/2007 11:25:53 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: NormsRevenge

“A false color image”

What does that mean?

When I looked at the photo it almost looked like there was an ocean on the horizon.


26 posted on 06/29/2007 1:25:04 AM PDT by thegreatmalcolmx (I came to love white people. At least that is what I was taught in my black history class.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Victoria Crater... y’know, I think Dr McCoy used to date her sister, or maybe her sister in law...


27 posted on 06/29/2007 6:48:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 27, 2007.)
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Red Planet’s Ancient Equator Located
Scientific American (online) | April 20, 2005 | Sarah Graham
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28 posted on 06/29/2007 7:01:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 27, 2007.)
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29 posted on 06/29/2007 7:01:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 27, 2007.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It looks like the floor of the crater has been filled in with a whole lot of blown in sand.

It doesn’t seem that the rover will be able to get to the real bottom to probe it.


30 posted on 06/29/2007 7:07:30 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: AntiKev

The Rover missions have got to be one of the most successful space missions of all time. I think secretly, some had hoped for up to a years life span, but 3.5 to 4 years? Simply incredible.


31 posted on 06/29/2007 8:07:53 AM PDT by Paradox (Foreign Policy suggestions from Jimmy Carter are like Beauty Tips from Rosie O'Donnell)
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To: Paradox

Yep, the problem is that they shouldn’t be operated from Earth. We should have explorers on the ground, teleoprating these little guys. Imagine the range then. Go out in your pressurized rover, deploy a little robot away from your base, keep going in your pressurized rover while you teleoperate the robot. Drive back two weeks later and pick him up along with the samples he’s collected.


32 posted on 06/29/2007 8:55:03 AM PDT by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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To: cripplecreek

This was an awesome mission - by both rovers. I had several opportunities to see one of them before launch - pretty neat little machines. Tremendous that they have been able to overcome all the mission obstacles that were thrown at them up to this time, and their longevity.


33 posted on 06/29/2007 10:49:22 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn’t it supposed to begin it’s descent today?
Sure would be great to have a live feed from Nasa.


34 posted on 07/07/2007 3:34:55 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I thought it was out of commission because of the sandstorm?

These two little buggers have turned out to be just about the most successful technical/scientific endeavor in history. They will be digesting the data for years.


35 posted on 07/07/2007 3:39:02 PM PDT by djf (Bush's legacy: Way more worried about Iraqs borders than our own!!! A once great nation... sad...)
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To: NormsRevenge

They should’ve named the crater after Algore. (Both are biiiiiiiiiiiig empties)


36 posted on 07/07/2007 3:40:55 PM PDT by golas1964 (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: djf

The dust storm has intensified and spread, they could lose their batteries and not be able to come back, worse case.

I’m hoping the dirt devils clean them up again,, that has helped them get some of the crud off their panels in the past it sounds.


37 posted on 07/07/2007 3:41:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: cripplecreek

The crater appears to be a worthy final object for exploration unless the rover tips over.


38 posted on 07/07/2007 3:43:39 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: NormsRevenge

I wuz wondering even if they lost all battery power, if the panels got cleaned up and the batteries started charging again, would the thing reboot automatically?

Probably lose any tech/programming updates and have to be retransmitted, but maybe not, it does have flash memory to hold images etc until the transmission time is better.


39 posted on 07/07/2007 3:46:50 PM PDT by djf (Bush's legacy: Way more worried about Iraqs borders than our own!!! A once great nation... sad...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Opportunity ready to descend into Victoria Crater

I wonder what kind of secrets it will find?

40 posted on 07/07/2007 3:48:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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