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Fiddle Dee Dee--George Bush Thinks Conservatives are Poor White Trash
Mamzelle

Posted on 06/26/2007 5:17:28 PM PDT by Mamzelle

Over the past months of this nightmare of immigration scofflawry, listening to the rhetoric from the aristocratic Republican elites--I’ve been carried back to the Magnolia Melodramas I enjoyed reading as a teenager. Gwen Bristow’s “Plantation Trilogy”; Frank Yerby’s “The Foxes of Harrow” and the magnificent mother of them all--Margaret Mitchell’s “Gone With The Wind.”

George Bush once said, “I’m not a southerner, I’m a southwesterner.” He was trying to distance himself from the south and the taint of racism, a “compassionate” insult to every southerner who voted for him. But he has every resemblence to the linen-suited julep-drinking Massa of the Old South.

And the dynamic of the Elites verses Middle-class Conservatives is exactly like the plantation owner and his nearest inelegant neighbors...White Trash. Scots-Irish subsistence farmers couldn’t afford to the leisured fineries of the Planter Class because they were trying to eke out an existence in competition with the institution of slavery.

Remember the characters of the Slatterys and the Macintoshes, Gerald and Scarlett O’Hara’s WT neighbors? Not only did the O’Haras hold them in contempt for being so hardscrabble, tacky and rough-textured, but the slaves themselves of the plantations held themselves in higher esteem than “po’ whites.”

And the Massa with the Big Heart dearly loved his servants, loved condescending to them--What treasures! Just like members of the family! Not that he set them free, or ate at the same table. There are limits to paternalism and noblesse oblige. But Massa and Missus were unfailingly thankful that Mammy and Pork picked up Scotty’s poop off the Big House lawn.

The irony--it’s the Southern middle class that makes up a lot of the soldiers who trusted him enough to serve in Iraq.

George Bush thinks he can afford to openly display the contempt he has always felt for Joe Redneck...er...Sixpack. His chief overseer, Tony Snow, let us in on the secret in the wee hours after election day. He can now concentrate on indulging his oozing childhood sentimentality by handing his house servants a deed to America.

I’m reminded of another scene from Gone With The Wind--Scarlett was being lectured by an elderly matriarch about Trash. “And when you’re done with them--kick them away and do it thoroughly, because Trash clinging to your coattails can ruin you.”

I have entered into many discussions about illegal immigration with a comment--housework and yardwork are political. This is a class issue between overlord elites who can’t conceive of a life spent actually cleaning up after themselves. They break the laws, then have to justify the transgression by accusing the law of being bad. That’s why they become insulting and defensive when requested to obey the law.

I’m done with Bush. I don’t trust him--or any member of his Indolent family.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; deathofthegop; dixie; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; rant; vampirebill
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To: ClaireSolt
At least you admit how little you know about me. Thanks for the glimpse of your character.

Now why don't you run off and jump to some more conclusions?

161 posted on 06/27/2007 7:07:41 AM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: ClaireSolt
BTW...

There are no classes in America...

If you honestly believe that you must lead one of the most isolated, insular lives in the history of our country, or maybe just an incredibly flawed way of looking at things. I'll stick with pragmatism, thanks.

162 posted on 06/27/2007 7:10:54 AM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: caisson71

He also gave us no child left behind, huge SS prescription drug plan, bloated budgets (he never vetoes anything), was not able to achieve permanent tax cuts and now finally amnesty for illegals-terrible bill-completely bogus. He through us a crust of bread with the stem cell veto. He thinks we are ignorant, and this will be sufficient. There is a big surprise coming in 2008 for the Republicans. They betrayed us and will pay a price. I am done with President Bush and the Republican Party. I was one of the Bushbots in 2000 and 2004 telling people we had no choice-no more fear voting. It’s useless to vote for these people who absolutely will not govern properly.


163 posted on 06/27/2007 7:14:13 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: TheZMan; Texas Mulerider; Oorang; freedomfiter2; SWEETSUNNYSOUTH; BnBlFlag; catfish1957; ...

Dixie Ping


164 posted on 06/27/2007 7:23:10 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Mamzelle

As a descendent of only the *finest* of Virginia Blue Ridge foothills “Caucasian recyclables”—the politically correct version of “white trash”—I agree with you.

}:-)4


165 posted on 06/27/2007 7:41:00 AM PDT by Moose4 (I'm not white trash. I'm a Caucasian recyclable.)
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To: grellis

No, you just don’t know what class means. Classes are legal distinctions. Go back and read your Marx, and leave America alone.


166 posted on 06/27/2007 7:59:42 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Texas Mulerider
I think they do. But if not, they should:

Speaking for myself, I've always viewed Texas as being in the South, but Texas's brand of Dixie is different and unique from other southern states. The deep south is more of the classic, genteel, hospitable, agrarian culture. Texas is much more cowboy. However, both forms of southernness can be identified by the usual traits: public politeness, hospitality, strength of character, courage in battle, and love of God and Country.
167 posted on 06/27/2007 8:00:31 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Romans 10:9)
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To: grellis

You know, I was a history and geography teacher. Your post was awful and inaccurate in ways others have noted. You are way out of your element. I don’t want to know more about someone who writes so badly about things I know a lot more about. I didn’t claim to know anything about you beyond what you wrote, and your claim to glimpse my character is more an insight into your inabiity to take the heat for what you wrote..


168 posted on 06/27/2007 8:06:46 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Dog Gone

Agreed.


169 posted on 06/27/2007 8:08:15 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...a conservative alternative to NPR! Check out nat synd "Rightalk with Terri and Lynn")
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To: BnBlFlag

I shoulda phrased that better.....I meant anyone with your moniker is obviously southern

yep....Bush is pretty PC on southern heritage stuff

not good to me....at all...big red flag i noticed then

let’s face it....Bush did good with taxes and court

he rose to the 9-11 tragedy....I think most POTUS(s) would in this TV age with handlers

9-11 really helped him ...without that he woulda looked worse much earlier


170 posted on 06/27/2007 9:26:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (George Bush....I want my money back I gave you.)
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To: nativist; stainlessbanner; BnBlFlag

sorry....I have plenty of kinfolks in Texas...

maybe cowboys in El Paso feel like you

my ex-girlfriend before my wife was from Anson...she considered herself southern

no doubt that Texas also has a distinct exclusive flavor to being a Texan aside from anything else but rare is a native Texan who says they are not Southern...many Oklahomans, southern Missouirians, nearly all Kentuckians....all claim Southerness and will tell you quickly.

scratch hard enough here and you can often find that the “Texans” who do claim not to be Southern do so because they disparage the South over racial issues as usual and wish not to be associated with it.

and they are often not native Texan.

I have been seeing this here on occasion for 7 years....even had some tell me that the Lone Star flag had no realtion whatsoever the Bonnie Blue which they considered a slave flag....even though the Bonnie Blue was an old independence flag in the old southwest from which many of the settlers came to Texas....and that several Texas regiments used the flag as regimental or company colors in the WBTS

PC conservatives are depressing...not you....I don’t know...I know your username though

not trying to pick a fight but to declare Texas not Southern is kind of nonsensical.....

as for BBQ.....it’s different everywhere.....as are southern accents.....I can tell Mississippi from Tennessee

speaking of which...where do most Texans come from ?...aside from Mexico...Tennessee


171 posted on 06/27/2007 9:38:55 AM PDT by wardaddy (George Bush....I want my money back I gave you.)
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To: ClaireSolt; grellis

“No, you just don’t know what class means. Classes are legal distinctions. Go back and read your Marx, and leave America alone.”

What a nasty person you are. You know good and well there are different SOCIAL classes of people in this country and every country that contains more than two families. Being stubbornly obtuse about it in order to appear to have some intellectual or moral superiority is pathetic. You taught children? No wonder this country is so screwed it that it ignores reality in favor imagined idealism.

Typical edu-crat. Telling people, “Read your X” instead of engaging in an intellectual discussion. Perhaps if you spent more time thinking instead of reading other people’s words you would be able to form your own thoughts and not have to reference others’.


172 posted on 06/27/2007 9:39:27 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: wesley_windam-price
"How is it that the country is on the verge of filling its highest office for the sixth consecutive term from one of two families? That every President from 1989 to 2017 may be a Bush or a Clinton is a national disgrace. What has happened to the American Republic? How does it differ from a banana republic — where a couple of dominant families often run everything for generations?"

Larry Sabato

173 posted on 06/27/2007 10:05:56 AM PDT by CT (http://www.imwithfred.com)
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To: L98Fiero
Typical edu-crat. Telling people, “Read your X” instead of engaging in an intellectual discussion. Perhaps if you spent more time thinking instead of reading other people’s words you would be able to form your own thoughts and not have to reference others’.

This is a good point, and worth a further comment.

To argue a syllogism, if I need a chair today, it doesn't help to point out that a) Chippendale made great chairs, b) I'm not Thomas Chippendale, and c) the chair I just made for myself (or contracted out to X) isn't as good as Chippendale's, or as classically well-proportioned, or, frankly, a Chippendale.

If I need a chair and supply my own need, my doing so is no less valid because someone else did it differently in the Federal period and garnered great praise for doing it his way (which great praise Thos. Chippendale himself might have been somewhat surprised to hear about, btw).

This is called the cultural error of classicism. Roman letters declined, it is now acknowledged, from the moment that Roman rhetors and pedagogues embraced that mistake by enshrining Cicero and Caesar. Who were, after all, practitioners not idealizers, and living men, not icons.

174 posted on 06/27/2007 10:13:10 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: wardaddy
Well you may have a point in some respects but I am Texan even though I was born in Washington State. My dad is from Andrews and was living in Edmonds when I was born. I have lived in Texas most of my life so I think I have a decent perspective on this.

If someone asked me are you a Yankee or a Reb I would say Reb. If you asked me if I was Southern in a cultural way I would say no, I am Texan.

Texas didn't get the brutal brunt of the Civil War even though they fought for the South. I think there is a different view of things from Texan point of view.

I would agree that someone like Bush would distance himself from the South for political reasons and unfortunately Bush has shown to be a poseur in a few ways.

175 posted on 06/27/2007 10:24:34 AM PDT by nativist (Weigh into them!)
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To: nativist
"naw, I'm more like Davy Crockett or Sam Houston, I just came here to give you slackers a hand."

LOL! EX-cellent retort.

Stephen F. Austin was from out-of-state, too.....although he wasn't a U.S. citizen during much of his career. He was a citizen, a Virginian educated in Connecticut and Kentucky (Transylvania University graduate,) until he and his daddy Moses emigrated to New Spain (of which Texas was a part) and became Spanish empresarios. As Spanish "officials" they were no longer citizens by reason of holding an office of honor and favor from the Spanish crown. Moses Austin died immediately after returning from Texas to Missouri, but Stephen F. Austin accomplished the colonization of Texas -- with new Spanish subjects who all agreed to become Catholic and learn Spanish (he did). He died in the Republic of Texas when it was just a few months old.

176 posted on 06/27/2007 10:32:53 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
He also was willing to become Mexican and tried to get representation in Mexico City for Texas as well as Chihuahua because these areas were sparsely populated by what we would consider Mexicans. He was actually against the Texas Revolution until he was thrown in prison after going to Mexico City to petition for representation for Texas.

One thing I will add. Santa Anna was acoward and any Mexican who is angry about losing parts of Mexico (which was independent for only 16 years before Texas won its independence) should be mad at Santa Anna who gave up all of Texas, Oklahoma, parts of Colorado and Utah to save his own life. The Mexican army was still intact and fighting but Houston basically said,"sign over Texas and we will let you go." I seriously doubt Washington or Jefferson and obviously guys like Crockett or Travis would be so cowardly.

177 posted on 06/27/2007 10:41:09 AM PDT by nativist (Weigh into them!)
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To: nickcarraway

My question is, why does Kennedy?


178 posted on 06/27/2007 10:41:20 AM PDT by caisson71
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To: Sister_T
I wonder if enough Americans decided that we wanted Mexico’s oil to “better our lives”, would they allow us to stay and do that? Somehow, I doubt it.

That one was answered in the 1930's, when the Mexican government nationalized the oil leases (or concessions, I'm not sure which they were, legally) in the Golden Lane Trend and around Poza Rica. That U.S. oil companies cannot own Mexican oil reserves in the ground is now an article of the Mexican constitution.

Years earlier, Pancho Villa had made a habit of executing American mining and railroad engineers whenever he could.

179 posted on 06/27/2007 10:43:48 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: L98Fiero

In what dream world do you circulate where you get to misuse terms and then call people nasty when they call you on it? Words have meaning and class means somethings specific that are NOT applicable in America. The main attribute of class is inabiity to change. Telling people who are not in classes that they are is nasty. And where do you come off being so abusive when you don’t know what you are talking about, at all! Marx defined class conflict and sociologgy studies it. I guess you know little of either.


180 posted on 06/27/2007 11:09:42 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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