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To: ClaireSolt; grellis

“No, you just don’t know what class means. Classes are legal distinctions. Go back and read your Marx, and leave America alone.”

What a nasty person you are. You know good and well there are different SOCIAL classes of people in this country and every country that contains more than two families. Being stubbornly obtuse about it in order to appear to have some intellectual or moral superiority is pathetic. You taught children? No wonder this country is so screwed it that it ignores reality in favor imagined idealism.

Typical edu-crat. Telling people, “Read your X” instead of engaging in an intellectual discussion. Perhaps if you spent more time thinking instead of reading other people’s words you would be able to form your own thoughts and not have to reference others’.


172 posted on 06/27/2007 9:39:27 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: L98Fiero
Typical edu-crat. Telling people, “Read your X” instead of engaging in an intellectual discussion. Perhaps if you spent more time thinking instead of reading other people’s words you would be able to form your own thoughts and not have to reference others’.

This is a good point, and worth a further comment.

To argue a syllogism, if I need a chair today, it doesn't help to point out that a) Chippendale made great chairs, b) I'm not Thomas Chippendale, and c) the chair I just made for myself (or contracted out to X) isn't as good as Chippendale's, or as classically well-proportioned, or, frankly, a Chippendale.

If I need a chair and supply my own need, my doing so is no less valid because someone else did it differently in the Federal period and garnered great praise for doing it his way (which great praise Thos. Chippendale himself might have been somewhat surprised to hear about, btw).

This is called the cultural error of classicism. Roman letters declined, it is now acknowledged, from the moment that Roman rhetors and pedagogues embraced that mistake by enshrining Cicero and Caesar. Who were, after all, practitioners not idealizers, and living men, not icons.

174 posted on 06/27/2007 10:13:10 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: L98Fiero

In what dream world do you circulate where you get to misuse terms and then call people nasty when they call you on it? Words have meaning and class means somethings specific that are NOT applicable in America. The main attribute of class is inabiity to change. Telling people who are not in classes that they are is nasty. And where do you come off being so abusive when you don’t know what you are talking about, at all! Marx defined class conflict and sociologgy studies it. I guess you know little of either.


180 posted on 06/27/2007 11:09:42 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: L98Fiero; ClaireSolt
I knew you'd take that line, Claire, and I'm laughing my tail off because you have proven my point: You are a teacher, and you reign supreme at the top of the intellectual classes, don't you?

I don't need to read Marx to know that classes exist. They have existed since the days of the Old Testament, dear, and they will continue to exist for as long as we humans remain social creatures. As such, there will always be those who sit in the lofty positions of their particular class distinction and look down their noses upon the rest of us. Sometimes those lofty few imagine themselves puppet masters, holding tight to the strings of the cascades of humanity falling away from their feet. You may want to believe that someone like George Soros, who is without doubt in the upper echelons of the financial classes, does not sway the movement of our country. That is disasterous thinking. And you are a teacher...:"You are way out of your element. I don’t want to know more about someone who writes so badly about things I know a lot more about."

You might just be the worst kind of puppet master, one who gets paid to pull the strings. A bona fide member of the intelligentsia. And so very proud of that, aren't you?

How's the view from up there? LMAO

196 posted on 06/27/2007 1:50:35 PM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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