Posted on 06/25/2007 11:59:42 AM PDT by Jacksonville Patriot
Latest on the Cloture Vote for the Immigration Deal [Jim Geraghty]
Just spoke to a spokesman for a Republican opposed to the deal, and helping lead the opposition. Here's what we know right now:
1. Tomorrow is the first test, on the vote to bring it back to the floor. Deal supporters need 60. Opponents think they have about 33-35 right now, so they only need about five to seven more. Kirkorian's earlier Corner post was praised for its accuracy.
Some Republicans on the fence are going to try to have it both ways - vote to bring it back to the floor, so they can get their amendments considered, but not necessarily promise to vote for a) cloture to cut off debate and b) passage. Nonetheless, bill opponents should not forgive a vote to bring it back to the floor, I'm told. They're within a few votes of killing the deal before it comes back; why take the chance on a later vote?
2. The fact that senators are announcing how they will vote on a "procedural" vote is a huge sign of how much pressure they're feeling. For opponents, it's reason for very cautious optimism.
3. A loss tomorrow means there are still two more chances to kill the bill; still, a good opportunity will have been missed.
4. The cloture vote may come before, or after, consideration of certain amendments. Skeptics should not be all that impressed with amendments approved by Reid and Kennedy. Less likely than "poison pills" are "fig leaf" amendments that improve the bill in cosmetic ways, but don't significantly address the real problems with the bill.
06/25 11:52 AM
The List of Twelve [Jim Geraghty]
Around the Hill, Kirkorian's list is being cited as accurate and up to date:
The following 12 senators are leaning against the bill itself but so far are leaning toward the cloture motion which means, in reality, that they would be helping pass the amnesty, because if the bill comes to a final vote, it will pass. These are the Senators whose decisions will likely determine whether the amnesty passes or not: Bond (R-Mo.), Bingaman (D-N.M.), Burr (R-N.C.), Boxer (D-Calif.), Cochran (R-Miss.), Conrad (D-N.D.), Ensign (R-Nev.), Levin (D-Mich.), Gregg (R-N.H.), Nelson (D-Neb.), Hatch (R-Utah), Webb (D-Va.).
Ahem. Phone numbers can be found here.
In related news, Rush Limbaugh just said that if he were running America, as Trent Lott suggested talk radio is, Lott would be in the House, not the Senate.
06/25 12:36 PM
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Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! Its NOT OVER!!
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Just emailed my Senator (Boxer) and urged her to vote no on cloture.
Burr is going to try and pull a fast one, voting for cloture and against the bill so he can have it both ways. North Carolina depends HEAVILY on illegal farm workers to supplement the H-2A guest farm worker program. Don’t let him get away with it!
As for Webb...hell, he’s Born Idiot. Who knows what he’s going to do. You know Dingy Harry’s putting the squeeze on him, but on the other hand, he’s got this weird populist streak and *might* be susceptible to pressure. Maybe call him and tell him it’ll put all the Scotch-Irish out of a job.
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When this was first up for a cloture vote, I got through to Senator Cornyn’s office without much trouble, but Senator Hutchison’s phone was jammed solid. I called Representative Sam Johnson’s office and his aide agreed to ask Sam to pass on my message to Senator Hutchison: A vote for cloture is a vote for amnesty, and won’t soon be forgotten.
I've worked an awful lot of blue-collar jobs, some in Virginia, and that's exactly who it IS going to put out of jobs.
All of the Senators have contact forms on their websites (except Bingaman).
Use the link from above (Post 3) to go to their forms, fill them out, and just say "Vote NO on cloture for the amnesty bill!".
They'll know exactly what you mean.
Took me all of about 15 minutes on Saturday to do that.
I am pretty sure Webb has said he is a NO vote on cloture.
If only it was still took 2/3 of senators to invoke cloture and not 3/5.
Hutchison and Cornyn made it clear last week they will not vote for cloture.
Sure hope so - I've been calling for days and can NOT get through.
I read somewhere today that someone got through to his Hampton Roads office ? Have you tried that?
I called Boxer’s office, again posing as a Dem constituent. The staffer stated that Boxer was undecided how she would vote on what I termed “closure”.
Burr also has a wonderful website (/sarc) - you can’t even put in a state other than North Carolina. Still, I sent my message.
I just sent the following to all of the Republicans on the list:
“Vote NO on cloture!!
A vote for cloture is a vote for the immigration bill - and millions across the country including my family won’t forget it. Do the right thing and help kill this bill.
Secure the borders FIRST, then we can figure out what to do with millions of illegals.
I say this as the proud and grateful descendant of immigrants and as the husband of an immigrant - this bill is a travesty, it is a slap in the face of everyone who has EVER done things legally, and it will exacerbate an already terrible security problem. VOTE NO ON CLOTURE!!!”
Anyone who’d like to copy all or part of it is welcome to do so. Let’s kill this bill!
Nice work Plutarch!
Owl_Eagle
If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.
For the Democrats, I would strongly suggest taking a pro-union/anti-illegal alien stance (i.e. they are taking our jobs) rather than using the conservative national security angle.
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