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'Beast of Omaha' weeps as he recalls slaughter of thousands on beach
Scotsman ^ | 6/6/04 | Murdo MacLeod

Posted on 06/11/2007 12:17:14 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I agree. Looks like Utah.


61 posted on 06/11/2007 4:49:50 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: saganite; MARTIAL MONK
A little reality check, more Americans died on 911 than at Normandy...

From the Brits' D-Day Museum site:

"The breakdown of US casualties was 1465 dead, 3184 wounded, 1928 missing and 26 captured. Of the total US figure, 2499 casualties were from the US airborne troops (238 of them being deaths). The casualties at Utah Beach were relatively light: 197, including 60 missing. However, the US 1st and 29th Divisions together suffered around 2000 casualties at Omaha Beach."

There was a total of @ 2000 casualties on Omaha. This includes wounded. This guy would have had to be responsible for every single US KIA (ignoring drownings, artillery/mortars, every other German soldier and friendly fire) and even that number wouldn't come close to what is claimed in this article.

62 posted on 06/11/2007 4:50:12 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Strategerist

You are SOOOOO right about that. If I hear one more time on tv, radio, etc. about the 30,000 dead in one day at G-Burg, or Antietam, etc., I am going to scream. Especially irksome coming from conservative people who should know better and who continuously lecture us on how well they “know my history,” i.e., Hannity and Limbaugh.


63 posted on 06/11/2007 5:01:20 AM PDT by RayStacy
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To: LibWhacker

I’ll join with the others who are suspicious. The biggest question I have is.... What the hell were the other Germans doing while this guy was single-handedly holding off all of America and England? If this story is to be believed, then every other kraut on the beach was so poorly positioned/visually impaired/drunk that they were scoring one US casualty per 10,000 Germans.


64 posted on 06/11/2007 5:09:51 AM PDT by RayStacy
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To: wtc911
Enough of this story is B.S. that it raises suspicions about the rest. Omaha is huge, five miles I think. The landings were concentrated with the highest casualties in the 16th and 116th but no one position was so strategicly placed that they could have done this much damage. The whole story is too movieish to be believed.

If I was to bet, I would bet that this bozo ran and made up the story. It does tell you something about mass psychology that so many people believe the story.

65 posted on 06/11/2007 5:28:33 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: RayStacy

see # 60.


66 posted on 06/11/2007 6:01:29 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: DB

We did try to get tanks ashore. All of theses amphibious tanks sank as they came off of the transports because of the choppy water. I think one tank actually made it ashore.


67 posted on 06/11/2007 6:41:24 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred D. Thompson for POTUS!)
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To: Clara Lou; DB

68 posted on 06/11/2007 7:00:01 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: taxcontrol

Great post.


69 posted on 06/11/2007 7:07:01 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Spktyr; mad_as_he$$

There was a TV show a few years ago which described how many of the tanks had been swamped when they became oriented perpendicular to the direction of the waves (parallel to the beach). The question was, why did this happen? Divers were able to map the orientation of all of the tanks. It was found that they all pointed to the location of a church steeple on shore. The crews had been told to aim for this landmark, but as the current pushed the tanks farther and farther down the beach this instruction proved fatal as it caused the tanks to turn away from the direction of the waves.


70 posted on 06/11/2007 7:27:30 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: LibWhacker

Wasn’t that one memory of the shot to the forehead captured in the movie, Saving Private Ryan?


71 posted on 06/11/2007 7:31:05 AM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Spktyr

The first time I ever saw pictures of these barriers, it seemed as though a giant had dropped a thousand jacks on the beach.


72 posted on 06/11/2007 7:41:30 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Howard Jarvis Admirer
Because the American generals blew off General Montgomery’s advice to use armor in assaulting the beach -

Look what they got when they did take Monty's advice - Operation Market Garden.

73 posted on 06/11/2007 7:44:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Strategerist
The British 1st Airborne took heavy casualties because of Monty’s tendency to make sure British troops got the glory assignments.

In this sense, we can drop the “l” from glory.

74 posted on 06/11/2007 7:52:49 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: MARTIAL MONK
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-49,GGLJ:en&q=%22Beast+of+Omaha%22%2e Looks like he has some fame.
75 posted on 06/11/2007 7:59:12 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: dfwgator

Mosier does not say that Monty was infallible - he did make mistakes. But unlike some other generals, Monty tended to learn something from his mistakes. You will not agree with everything in the “Blitzkrieg Myth”, but you will find it an interesting read. For example, I didn’t realize until I read the book that the French had better tanks than the Germans at the beginning of the war.


76 posted on 06/11/2007 8:18:30 AM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: Spktyr; TheLooseThread

I can imagine a number of scenarios where one bullet may have accounted for several casualties/deaths in the packed quarters of the landing craft.


77 posted on 06/11/2007 8:23:31 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: SlapHappyPappy
British troops got the glory assignments.

Montgomery's gloryhounding and Churchill's exhortations notwithstanding, it was an underlying reality that Great Britain could not take another bloodbath like that of WWI. They had lost nearly a million of their best and brightest and were still paying the price a score of years later. It was understood that if there was heavy slogging with high casualties to be done, it was the Americans who would have to do it. They fought valiantly but had their losses started to mount they were fully prepared to sue for whatever peace they could get.

78 posted on 06/11/2007 8:26:51 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yes, that is a hard situation to say the least. It is just a shame that a large group of Germany soldiers were not willing to turn on a manical Hitler seeing that he was taking over sovereign countries and leading them all to utter ruin. Just one platoon, division or whatever march on Hilters headquarters secretly and quickly. Easy for me to write, but a very good idea.


79 posted on 06/11/2007 8:33:58 AM PDT by fabian
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To: wolficatZ

Wow. Just wow...


80 posted on 06/11/2007 8:42:09 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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