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Peggy Noonan and The WSJ Editorial - It's Time to Revolt!
Red State ^ | June 1, 2007

Posted on 06/01/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

However, now I do not feel alone. Peggy Noonan has a new column up in the Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal. She has clearly said what has been getting me down. I think I knew what was up, but couldn't put a finger on it. I knew it centered around the immigration debate, and the way our congressional leaders are behaving. That sentiment especially includes Mr. Bush too, but when I read this column, I felt like Charlie Brown yelling at Lucy at her Psychology booth when he yells, "That's it!" when trying to identify why he can't get into the Christmas spirit.

Try this clip on for size :

The White House doesn't need its traditional supporters anymore, because its problems are way beyond being solved by the base. And the people in the administration don't even much like the base. Desperate straits have left them liberated, and they are acting out their disdain. Leading Democrats often think their base is slightly mad but at least their heart is in the right place. This White House thinks its base is stupid and that its heart is in the wrong place.

For almost three years, arguably longer, conservative Bush supporters have felt like sufferers of battered wife syndrome. You don't like endless gushing spending, the kind that assumes a high and unstoppable affluence will always exist, and the tax receipts will always flow in? Too bad! You don't like expanding governmental authority and power? Too bad. You think the war was wrong or is wrong? Too bad.

But on immigration it has changed from "Too bad" to "You're bad."

The president has taken to suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic--they "don't want to do what's right for America." His ally Sen. Lindsey Graham has said,

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bbs; bds; crimaliens; deathofthegop; holierthanthou; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; invasion; noamnestyforillegals; noonan; peggyisrighton; zerovisa
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To: Elsiejay

Good post, bttt.


261 posted on 06/01/2007 9:26:16 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: jveritas

It is really sad to see our own people attacking the Commander-In-Chief during wartime like this. I think this only emboldens the enemy.


262 posted on 06/01/2007 9:26:31 PM PDT by 1-505th_airborne_medic
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To: Antoninus; potlatch; floriduh voter; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

Flood the amnesty hotline! By Michelle Malkin

263 posted on 06/01/2007 9:26:49 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: 1-505th_airborne_medic

No doubt about it, and that is why I am so sad about what is going on.


264 posted on 06/01/2007 9:30:31 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

The best you guys can do is to stop this illegal immigration bill instead of fixing it to make it better but by you doing so you get absolutely nothing from you want you will get, absolutely nothing, everything will be the same as it is now and even worse. You will be keep whining about it from now until you die but it will not be resolved according to what you wish, the opposite will be true.

For awhile there I thought you were in control of your faculties. Your latest rants have now turned me off .


265 posted on 06/01/2007 9:32:21 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: Clintonfatigued

“At the risk of sounding disloyal, I’ll be glad when Bush leaves office.”

Looks like he’s a one-world order guy, just like his dad.


266 posted on 06/01/2007 9:33:36 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: 1-505th_airborne_medic
It is sad. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy is wrong regardless of which side of the political spectrum it comes from.

The Monday morning quarterbacks run amuck. Or maybe a better analogy would be that the lineman are running a ground game and the receivers are running an air game, and the quarterback was blindsided by his own fullback.

267 posted on 06/01/2007 9:35:10 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: rolling_stone

Do I support the bill? No, not as written but, its a work in progress. What I want is to get something done and seal the borders, dry up the jobs, cut off the welfare, punish the violent criminals, bust up the gangs, and preserve Social Security. To get that, I want to kill the current amnesty program and give the ones that are here now that jump through specific , tough hoops a shot at citizenship. We also need an enforced guest worker program coupled with Visa enforcement. All of these things will work if we force the politicians feet to the fire and demand they make it work. I`m sure that there are other great ideas but, until we are willing to compromise on some things, we will get nothing and all we will have is more of the same. That is, til one of Hillorat`s judges gives the illegals everything


268 posted on 06/01/2007 9:36:54 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: jveritas

Moron.....you’re just a sychophantic moron.


269 posted on 06/01/2007 9:40:43 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: 1-505th_airborne_medic; jveritas
It is really sad to see our own people attacking the Commander-In-Chief during wartime like this. I think this only emboldens the enemy.

That is probably one outcome. However, the enemy probably realizes we have fools (permanent and occasional) in America (all over the political spectrum) just as anywhere else - and in fact have long realized it before now.

Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

270 posted on 06/01/2007 9:40:45 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: familyop

“Nominate Duncan Hunter instead.”

Yep.

http://www.gohunter08.com/inner.asp?z=1

2. Duncan Hunter originated the fence along the Mexico-U.S. border decades ago in order to cut down crime against illegal immigrants. Today, that fence (a double fence) is 14 miles long. It has cut smuggling (people and drugs) over 90% and has drastically reduced the 10/year murder rate of illegal immigrants by removing the mobility of the cross border criminal gangs. It has eliminated the major cross border drug automobile chases. The crime rate in San Diego as a whole is 44% as compared to the pre-fence crime rate. A large scale extension of the fence (700 miles long) was authorized in the 2006 bill “Secure Fence Act of 2006”. His efforts over some 20 plus years have brought the fence to be considered as a major instrument of immigration policy and border control.


271 posted on 06/01/2007 9:41:53 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: 1-505th_airborne_medic
It is really sad to see our own people attacking the Commander-In-Chief during wartime like this. I think this only emboldens the enemy.

No more so than how emboldened they are by our flagrant disregard to secure our own borders, and our ridiculous proposal to grant instant "Z-visa" status to *ANYBODY* with a gas bill predating 1/1/07, after a criminal background check that must be completed within 24 hours (yeah, right).

They must be laughing their asses off at our complacency and naivety. That is, if they are not completely stunned in disbelief....

Oh, they are emboldened, all right. You can count on it.

272 posted on 06/01/2007 9:43:08 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Oklahoma
The same reason Sandy Berger got a free ride concerning his felonies. Remember, his 'Daddy', John Kerry was "read in" as to what we were up to in Nicaraguan during the eighties. He came back from Nicaragua, all guns blazing, even talking about BCCI banking.

Then he went silent?

Why have there been no prosecutions concerning Slick's China Fund Raising?

I believe they are all on the same page.

273 posted on 06/01/2007 9:43:22 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Those BP guys will do more prison time than many convicted Japanese war criminals ...thanks Bush!)
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To: oldvike

Go to sleep.


274 posted on 06/01/2007 9:48:25 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Oklahoma
The Monday morning quarterbacks run amuck.

The bill hasn't passed yet; it's still pre-game.

275 posted on 06/01/2007 9:50:45 PM PDT by kevao
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To: HonestConservative
Hahaha, this whole amnesty thing just got under my skin. Georgie is just p'ing me off because I have to go through all sorts of BS at the airport now, my international phone calls are monitored, my internet access might be too (who knows?) all in the name of security. But then he goes and throws the door to our southern border wide open???? And insults people like me who don't see the "wisdom" in this?

Well, he provoked a response.

God, I hope a lot more people respond, too, or we will not have a country anymore.

276 posted on 06/01/2007 9:51:56 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Tom Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: mtntop3; 1-505th_airborne_medic
Unfortunately my FRiends, we are now a minority on FR. As far as I am concerned, in this time of war I am going to defend the President against his so many haters on this forum until Jim Robinson decides that I am no longer welcomed on his website.
277 posted on 06/01/2007 9:52:30 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: neverhillorat

Well we don’t exactly have an amnesty, we have a period of non enforcement, which is a big difference, when we finally decide to get rid of them it will be a lot easier than if they have been “legalized”

The proposed bill is nothing but smoke and mirrors, and is unenforceable. We don’t have comprehensive murder, robbery or fraud laws and we don’t need comprehensive immigration laws. AMNESTY will only promote more illegals just like it did last time, it is no compromise it is a capitulation. They are waiting in Los Angeles and Tijuana for this thing to pass with prepared fraudulent evidence of residency and employment ready to sell as we speak. There will be no investigation of the applications and fraud will run over 50%.(just like 1986) You think there are 12 million illegals here now wait till the greatest giveaway in the world’s history begins. Oklahoma sooners will look like pikers. There also will be no enforcement down the road, the triggers are worthless. It is in fact worse than last years proposal. Just remember if George Bush and Ted Kennedy are for it, it is very bad indeed.

It is designed for one thing and one thing only and that is to fool the public into buying that is is a solution. It is a fraud.

http://www.allita.net/nbpc/xpqr/raw_deal.pdf

http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/Column.aspx?ContentGuid=ec89de35-a970-4100-853c-ef196d84be47

http://sessions.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=274982


278 posted on 06/01/2007 9:53:35 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: jveritas
Interesting! We are talking about illegal immigrants and they could not won the State of Florida, Texas, and Arizona where illegal immigrants are much more than in Pennsylvania and New Jersey.

Let's see what happens in 2008...

Phillie is one of the most democrat cities in America and for sure not because of illegal immigrants.

Philly's got larger problems than just the illegals--that much is true. Though within the past two years, I've seen more Mexicans in downtown Philly and heard more people speaking Spanish on the streets than I ever have in my life. But my meaning was that Democrat voter fraud is endemic and nothing ever gets done about it. If the opportunity arises to have massive numbers of illegals vote, they'll take advantage of it in a heartbeat.

New Jersey has been tending liberal since 1992,

You can thank Christie Todd Witless for that. That's what happens when you elect a liberal Republican--they proceed to put other liberals into the positions of power in the local party apparatus and keep out conservatives. Now the GOP is permanently fractured in NJ and can't mount a legitimate statewide candidate or even effectively oppose the Democrats.

The illegal immigrants are not the one who are making the democrats win new Jersey, it is the many, many, many liberal democrats who live there.

NJ has one of the highest numbers of illegals residing in a state outside the southwest. They have practically taken over some towns. If you don't think they're voting illegally, and have the potential to sway close elections (if the GOP ever gets their act together again, that is), you're crazy.
279 posted on 06/01/2007 9:54:44 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: 1-505th_airborne_medic
It is really sad to see our own people attacking the Commander-In-Chief during wartime like this. I think this only emboldens the enemy.

It is really sad to see our Commander-In-Chief attacking our own people during wartime. I think this only emboldens our enemies, as well.

280 posted on 06/01/2007 9:55:12 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Tom Tancredo for President 2008)
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