Posted on 06/01/2007 5:22:56 PM PDT by Natural Law
I am really getting sick of the "Whiny Bitch" wing of the GOP blaming its conservative base for losing control of both houses and now undermining the party further by not continuing to fund or vote for a more slow descent into socialism. This shows a complete lack of integrity on their part.
I for one refuse to vote for a Democrat, even when they call themselves a Republican, no especially when they call themselves a Republican. In fact, I would vote for a Democrat before I would a RINO because they at least have the integrity to admit to what they are. I for damned sure refuse to give them any campaign contributions when they have demonstrated that they can't manage the tax dollars they collect in the trillions.
Ronald Reagan, who began as a Democrat, once said he didn't leave the Democrat party, it left him. Me withholding my votes and financial support for the Republican Party isn't because I have changed political philosophy or party affiliation. I am withholding my votes and supports because the Republican Party has morphed into the Democrat Party.
The Whiny Bitch wing will say that there is no alternative and that not voting means that the Democrat Party (the old one that has now morphed into the Socialist Party) will prevail. The Democrat Party, or at least its principles, is prevailing anyway. One only need look at the actual status of Secure borders, immigration reform, government spending, balance of trade, energy self-sufficiency, whacko environmentalism, and voter fraud to see this.
If the GOP doesn't right itself will fade to irrelevance and will be replaced by a conservative party. When either of these two options happen I will again break out the check book and resume voting. Until then I will refrain.
We would kill each other before we finished the primaries.
We would kill each other before we finished the primaries.
For each issue, politicians need to be graded on two scales:
The public's reluctance to have a politician who pushes strongly conservatively on almost all issues does not imply that the public wants a politician who balances his conservatism by pushing strongly liberally on other issues.
How about just standing firm on your beliefs, and people will inevitable realize you're right and support you?
"Reaching out" doesn't do anything except alienate your faithful to pursue potential voters who may not vote for you anyway.
You can click this link to send a free fax to your senator opposing the shamnesty bill:
http://www.numbersusa.com/dfax?series=30MAY07MS1.html
People will just as often realize you are wrong and not support you.
If you can handle that, fine.
No conservative advocate such a position.
You're reduced to pathetic straw-man arguments now.
What do you think things would be like if Pro Lifers just threw in the towel? What if Conservatives said, "oh well, we don't have the majority, so lets not make an issue of it"?
What I learned is that if we threatened not to fund and not to vote, we would get their damn attention. See the Harriet Meir nomination. It seems that Republicans will listen, if enough people let them know that we are serious.
If folks stand back and say "oh well", you get nothing. Stand up and take a post, you get attention.
I think the reason Bush's numbers are so low is because he is acting like a neolib. If he put his Cowboy hat and acted like a Conservative, he would have 40 percent of the people saying he is doing a great job. That would be better then his numbers now. We elected a Republican we want those principles to be upheld.
No, I was just giving an example of a hardcore position that would alienate people. And it does.
I fully addressed the fallacy in your argument. I regret that you find that troubling, but I cannot in good conscience retract what I wrote, as I believe it to be true.
That's funny. I advocate that elected leaders should follow the Constitution, regardless of the values of the majority.
Honestly, on the abortion issue, I think the status quo would only be a little bit worse than it is now.
Good, because you're not wise enough to participate in the political process. If you can't figure out how to support candidates that represent your views in the only conservative party that can make a difference in this country, please stay home and eat Cheetos.
But shut up about the politicians you get as a result.
Well put, you express the sentiments most of us feel ... But, start the replacement now, only give money directly to real Conservative candidates, not AMNESTY Mel’s RNC.
I do, too. I was speaking in terms of public policy where the USC gives flexibility to go in any direction.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Push your narrow vision too far and a majority tells you to take a hike. If this escapes your reasoning ability, well, there you go.
I truly believe that holding our noses and pulling the lever for a RINO just because he or she is not a Democrat is the reason there are so many RINO’s.
I guess that's what I get for focusing on integrity.
This same “Majority” would take us socialist if the right handouts were offered.
Now is the time to be reinforcing that Republicans are conservative. I think you would be very surprised how conservative the general population is if it is spelled out in a way they can understand.
The problem the majority has is they were educated in public schools, never taught about money, personal responsibility, etc.
If a true conservative who could effectively explain the issues and why they are important to the country came forward, I think there would be a ground swell.
Everyone is tired of the illegals, nervous about the bloated gov. (but if it is going to keep growing, I might as well get mine), the Tax System, sees that there are fundamental flaws in education, etc.
Then, if this same person could get the republicans to get on board with him and map out a plan that was truly conservative and explain what they would do together, the country would support them overwhelmingly.
Focus also on advancing a political agenda. That’s the point of political power.
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