Posted on 05/28/2007 12:02:47 AM PDT by carlo3b
Mironov Tells Kyoto Experts The World Is Getting Cooler
By Simon Shuster
Staff WriterSergei Mironov
ST. PETERSBURG -- It was a failure from the start. Russia's biggest conference on the Kyoto Protocol, which aims to fight global warming, began with a speech from a top official who denied that global warming even exists.
"In reality, the scientific basis for the protocol is fairly weak," Federation Council Speaker Sergei Mironov told a crowded opening session of the two-day conference Thursday, which drew more than 200 environmental experts and carbon market participants from around the world. "In the opinion of many experts, the emission of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere does not have any effect on the climate."
On this point, Mironov stands on the fringes of global scientific opinion. A growing consensus has formed among top scientists and politicians, who have been warning governments to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases being spewed into the atmosphere. The Kyoto Protocol, first signed in 1997, created a system of financial incentives for doing this.
(Excerpt) Read more at themoscowtimes.com ...
“I remember going to an information night for Northwestern University (when my eldest was looking at schools with good music programs). The whole emphasis seemed to be on the student being able to “find themselves” during the four years at Northwestern by taking whatever classes they wanted.”
Ironically, I’ve met graduates of that school who couldn’t find their ass with both hands and a map...
There is a significant gramattical error in the headline.
“Expert” means somebody that knows what they are talking about.
“Professional” means somebody that is making a living in the field, expert or not....
Yeah. Right after politically correctness ends.
A secondary point is that there was no "dissertation" -- you speak to your own imaginary puffery when you introduce a new, what we gather is derogatory-in-context term like that. Do you expect a response after such agitated verbal frothing?
And what is the And "How about this:" is what is known as a sentence fragment. A totally battered fragment by the way. You are very abusive to language, aren't you?
Are you trying to speak like an Indian? Well I say "How!" right back to you. And my single point in this response is that idiocy arrives with a mob of idiocies.
Good writing avoids the mob.
The profane babbling of another mad Ivan. What would he know? It’s not like he’s an expert or anything. The AlGoricle is the only real expert. He said so and I believe him. You could see by the tilt of his head that he’d never lie.
I mean, how dense can people be? We already live in underground hive/havens under a mile thick sheet of ice ... oh, wait, sorry, that was the ‘70s...
I mean, how dense can people be? We’ve already had global wars over scarce water recourses and the outlands’ are filled with prowling madmen in home made dune buggies and motor cycles ... oh wait, that was the ‘80s...
I mean...ok, I’m confused. How is it we’re living now? Under water right? We’re all going to drown this time, right?
Where’s my copy of the Party Approved Rhetoric? I get so lost without the talking points page to reference. I remember it’s something about the polar bears...
I don’t know. Experts in court are paid for their opinions. I do understand your point, though.
The Kyoto protocols were meaningless to Russia because they used 1990 as a benchmark.
The collapse of Soviet smokestack industry shortly after 1990 guaranteed that Russia could always meet whatever “voluntary reductions in greenhouse gases” that Kyoto specified. This is why 1990 was chosen as a benchmark, so that Russia and Germany would benefit from the collapse of Communist-era industry.
However, any successor treaty to Kyoto would hurt Russia’s economy, so the Russians will oppose the process from now on.
Almost all the TV media morons talk about “global warming” as if it were as factual as green grass. The average DemoSocialist voter probably thinks it’s real, and really caused by “evil capitalists”. They can’t quite handle the idea that solar activity and other natural events are far more powerful than homo sapiens.
That was a lot of hot air to avoid pointing to any references that show that the population of the Earth is shrinking.
Rather than respond to the point, which you damn well understood, you danced and jiggled and spun.
This is an online forum, not an essay contest.
If you’re going to make a point, and it’s challenged, respond directly. My guess is you’re going through all this “puffery” to avoid doing so.
I hate both of you.
Just like with race, its you Libs that have to play the “religion” card (I didn’t mention religion or God). Maybe you can tell me the results so far for SETI. When I see something like Mt. Rushmore, I can tell its “by design”, not a freak/mutation of nature, same thing with the universe and life on Earth. Your the one that has some explaining to do (but of course Libs never have to explain themselves).
Maybe some enterprising journalist could do some investigative work to find out just how closely entwined the 'climate change' movement members are with the 'carbon credit' trading market. To me this would be as valid as the media always accusing opponents of the idea of anthropogenic global warming of being connected to, or funded by,the oil industry.
As Rush always says, "Follow the money".
“I hate both of you.”
I hate both of you too, Laz. ;)
We wanted to keep the property pristine. It was gorgeous. The wilderness was loaded with animals--a number of species. It was surrounded by forests in which many such animals were hunted. I suppose the ones we abandoned are living there now, if they're living at all.
The regulations, suggestions, and demands that the environmentalist agencies set up were ridiculous.
I'll bet they don't recycle faithfully like my wife and I do.
I'll bet they eat the animals too. I'm not trying to make people stop eating meat. We had given names to some of the animals we saw over and over again.
Carbon credits = South Sea Bubble, Tulip Mania for the New Millenium.
btt
I really think this BS bubble is finally going to burst.. This insanity has gone on far too long..”
Not only does this BS bubble need to burst, but the “carbon credits” BS bubble needs to burst at the same time.
It is the greatest con game since the “flat Earth” group.
Not without revealing more than I want to about this, Tom—or about myself.
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