Posted on 05/19/2007 6:24:48 AM PDT by new yorker 77
Contact Senator George Allen, Senator Rick Santorum and Senator Jim Talent To STOP the Immigration Bill ...
Wait...
These solid conservatives lost in 2006 because so-called conservatives were so angry about illegal immigration that they stayed home. Thus, allowing the eventual passing of the amnesty bill they opposed in the first place.
Let's see.
Staying home in 2006 was a principled position even though those who stayed home stabbed the troops in the back and these three solid conservative senators.
With all these new conservative principles, I can't keep up anymore.
I don’t deny there have been problems in the party
But they bottom line comes down to the voters .. they have the last say
You get the Congress you vote .. or don’t vote for
Suck it up and deal with .. Gramma Nancy has lots of plans for you all
Nevermind the fact that many conservatives still held their noses and voted for the Stupid Party.
You guys need to get a life.
It seems that is exactly what they want. If not they are accomplishing the same thing through their repeated stupidity. This group of FROBL's have done more to run off people from the "cause" than anything I can recall, except for the Bush administration.
In case you didn't notice, I spent the bulk of my posts last fall cajoling people to put aside differences about spending and corruption and vote to keep the GOP House in power. So I'm not sure why you think this is somehow my fault. At the end of the day, the GOP ran a feeble campaign that basically boiled down to "vote for us, we're not Democrats!". And that will seldom accomplish much for the party in power. Especially when the party in power has squandered their power and drifted away from their principles.
So quit blaming the handful of conservatives who didn't vote, and put the blame squarely where it belongs - on the likes of Bush, Hastert and Frist. And the likes of Santorum, who forgot who he was representing.
You don't effing know WHO stayed home...Republicans lost because of historical mid-term election trends and the fact that they abandoned fiscal conservatism.
Those individuals are therefore accomplices to the destruction of our country.
GOP's problem, not mine...
This is like the old days when the GOP featured a "Wall Street" faction led by the likes of Willkie, Dewey, and Jake "the Snake" Javits, and, of course, the Rockefelers pitted against a "Main Street" faction led by Taft, McCarthy, Jenner, Malone, Goldwater, and the like.
And at the end of the day, that's akin to blaming American car buyers for the woes of American car makers. Never mind that American car makers have failed to keep up with the quality of the likes of Toyota and Honda. Or make long-term incremental progress like Hyundai.
The GOP is the same way. They did NOT provide quality representation to the American people. It's that simple.
So tell me, genius...how do we find these people? Go door-to-door? No-knock raids?
You fools are just as bad as liberals, blaming others and excusing the failures of the party leadership.
So I'm not sure why you think this is somehow my fault
Don't recall putting all the blame on you .. though I do recall saying "you all" .. meaning as in a group effect
But . whatever .. damage is done .. lessons are being learned all around
what ever ... bottom line ... you’re still stuck with the Democrats
grrrr
group effort
Gee, I never realized that I should not slam our elected GOP officials when Bush worked with Dems and passed a Medicare drug benefit when we can't pay for what is already promised. Or criticize the huge growth in discretionary spending that happened under the "leadership" of Frist and Hastert.
Nah, according to the likes of you, I should just shut my yap and praise Bush and Hastert and Frist to the highest.
Your "all or nothing" ideology brought Bill Clinton into office and it will bring Hillary Clinton into office.
Of course, you are too foolish to recognize the results of your actions, but like a mental patient, you keep repeating the same mistake over and over expecting a different outcome.
And ANOTHER Han Solo pubbie chimes in! It's not the fault of the GOP leadership that they lost power (hint - I encouraged folks to vote for them DESPITE all their failings). Nah, blame the occasional conservative who stayed home and ignore the exit polling that showed a large swing of independents to the Dems. Independents that were put off by GOP corruption and sloth.
And also, we can't go blaming the Rudy boosters who are ignoring Reagan's winning legacy by pushing a pro-abort, pro-gun-control candidate from the far left of the party, instead of supporting someone from the center of the party. Nah, it's the fault of conservatives who can't bring themselves to vote for a candidate who is an affront to just about all their core values.
But I'm the foolish one...
Good work. I think (just opinion, no numbers in OH) that our conservative turnout was about normal, but that large numbers of indies and conservative Dems voted for Strickland/Brown out of sheer hatred for Bush/Taft.
I’m a Pennsylvania voter. Santorum lost by roughly 59-41, if I remember correctly. It wasn’t the conservatives staying home that beat him. It was a lot of things. His support of Arlen Specter hurt him (which supports your point), but mostly it was his support of the war and the President, neither of which is very popular around here. As to the new immigration bill, if Santorum was in office, I expect he’d be standing there with Kyl, Hutchinson, Chambliss, Iskason, et al, supporting this thing. He was always a free-trader. I think his sudden conversion for a strong borders position in the last election was because he thought that’s what the voters wanted to hear. I don’t think he ever believed it.
I think we faced a combination of anti-Taft (even from Republicans), extra-high “do-gooder” liberal turnout from the anti-smoking initiative, weak support for DeWine from the Repubs (who may have voted for him, but didn’t bring along any Dems or indies), and the drag of Bush.
How many times do these posters have to tell you that they voted for the REPUBLICANS! They may not have been happy about it, but they did. You open border promoters have your pound of flesh and a democrat controlled congress that agrees with your socialist nonsense. Shut up and maybe we can pull the rest of you out of the mess YOU have created.
I’m very proud that I voted for W twice. Just because I don’t agree with him on everything like this immigration issue doesn’t mean that he hasn’t been a great President.
And to answer your question. Anyone who stayed home this last election because of this issue are no doubt idiots.
Tancredo’s immigration caucus lost seats at a much lower rate than non-caucus members. But somehow the GOP loss is the fault of the anti-amnesty folks.
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