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GOP Sellout- A senseless giveaway on immigration.
National Review Online ^ | 05/17/07 | Brian Darling

Posted on 05/17/2007 2:41:56 PM PDT by SE Mom

“Sellout.” It may be harsh, but it’s the most accurate and succinct way to sum up how conservatives feel right now about President Bush and Senate Republicans, who have cut a deal that would grant amnesty to the estimated 12 million illegal aliens living in the U.S. — not to mention the parents, spouses, and children of these illegals.

Title VI of a draft copy of the bill breaks down amnesty visas into three categories:

Z-1 — Illegal aliens present and working in the United States up to Jan. 1, 2007. Z-2 — Parents and spouses of illegal aliens qualifying under the Z-1 category. Z-3 — Children of illegal aliens qualifying under the Z-1 category.

These “Z Visa” holders can stay in the “Z” status indefinitely, which means they never have to pursue “a pathway to citizenship.” They also would be able to get Social Security numbers and benefit from some welfare programs. Shockingly, there is no cap on the numbers of amnesty recipients in the draft language. The only thing the Z Visa holder can’t do is vote — until, that is, a liberal judge declares this limitation unconstitutional or until a liberal president can railroad through a “technical corrections” bill.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bushamnesty; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; perfidy; treason
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To: SE Mom

the key word here is senseless. Do they really think that this will get the people they give amnesty to or their supporters to vote Republican?


101 posted on 05/17/2007 3:28:00 PM PDT by gondramB (No man can be brave who thinks pain the greatest evil)
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To: RC2

That’s if it is 12 million. Mark Taylor, filling in for Prager today, said there are credible stats that put the number at 20 to 25 million. 12 million! We wish. Probably double.


102 posted on 05/17/2007 3:28:58 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: SE Mom

The Walk on Water Conservatives didn’t like Bush’ half a loaf so they end up with none. Nice work immigration conservatives.

Pray for W and Our Troops


103 posted on 05/17/2007 3:30:12 PM PDT by bray (The co-clintons freed more terrorists than they killed)
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To: Sovernity
People are calling up and they are MAD!

Yeah, and Bush is just sitting back and laughing at us!

104 posted on 05/17/2007 3:30:19 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: bray

Not sure what you mean..


105 posted on 05/17/2007 3:32:01 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: BobS

I think the American people are going to hold “all” of them accountable not just the GOP. When I’m out socially, the topic of illegals is a hot button with people regardless of their political affiliation. IMO, these ego maniacs think they’re in Congress for life and that we’re too stupid to do anything about them. Their arrogance is beyond what I can describe here in civil terms. All of them suck and they aren’t worthy of calling themselves Americans.


106 posted on 05/17/2007 3:33:00 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SE Mom

Check cnn.com’s new top story..

More it’s not amnesty, but it is doubletalk.


107 posted on 05/17/2007 3:34:43 PM PDT by Tolsti
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To: SE Mom

Not sure what you mean..


water toter to the bitter end....


108 posted on 05/17/2007 3:35:07 PM PDT by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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President Bush’s legacy will be destroying this country.


109 posted on 05/17/2007 3:35:14 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Consider New Zealand.


110 posted on 05/17/2007 3:36:01 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Orange1998
I can see the wheels coming off Bush supporters over amnesty. This is a train wreck for Republicans.

One would almost think it was planned that way. The end result of passing an amnesty bill against the wishes of the American people could be, unfortunately, violence. Then what do we get? Martial law?

Don't have to worry about which candidate will protect your 2nd Amendment rights because those rights won't exist. They've already ignored our Constitution, what's pushing the envelope a little more and essentially declaring it null and void...for We, The People anyway.

111 posted on 05/17/2007 3:36:38 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I’ve heard it’s very beautiful there, but isn’t the government run by lefties?


112 posted on 05/17/2007 3:36:54 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: SE Mom

The death of the GOP.

What follows only G*d nows but it can't be good.
113 posted on 05/17/2007 3:36:59 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: Tolsti

It IS amnesty. You know it, I know it, the Senate knows it.

A rose by any other name...


114 posted on 05/17/2007 3:38:04 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: jongaltsr
The death of the GOP.

Hugh Hewitt and Mark Steyn said just about the same thing

115 posted on 05/17/2007 3:38:16 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Andrew Byler
Good. I'm far less concerned about giving amnesty to those already here than to giving them a pathway to citizenship.

Citizenship is really not the issue so much as allowing them to stay and work here despite entering illegally. They will receive SS numbers giving them rights to our entitlement systems, which are on the verge of collapse. They will also be eligbile for other benefits like Medicaid, Earned Income Credits, etc. This is an unmitigated disaster.

AND PROVIDED that those who are not citizens do not qualify for the Public Dole in any way except for the cost of a plane ticket back home should they lose their job.

Sounds good, but that is no going to happen once they start paying into the entitlement programs and federal and state taxes. The Dems and the interest groups like La Raza will expand the benefits even to these "non-citizens" and their children born here will be Americans entitled to every benefit.

116 posted on 05/17/2007 3:38:25 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Are you kidding? Foreget what they’ll do in the future...La Raza and other similar groups WERE IN ON THE NEGOTIATIONS on this bill!! They were practically given veto power.

I’m serious.


117 posted on 05/17/2007 3:40:48 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: arasina

It a better deal in America to be illegal than legal. Just think of all the benefits and rewards offered.


118 posted on 05/17/2007 3:40:58 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: NRA2BFree
I'll just bet the sorry SOB is anxious to sign it. This is what he's wanted since the day he took office. It works with his vision of the "Americas." I hope someone starts impeachment papers against him. I'd darn sure sign it. He has betrayed his oath of office and he has betrayed the American people.

I'm with you. What else can we do to protect the citizenry of these United States of America? It's making me meshugenah just thinking about the impact of this 'comprehensive' travesty.

119 posted on 05/17/2007 3:41:00 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

What’s bizarre, Mexico is a rich, rich country. Silver mines, oil fields, timber, etc. That’s what is missing from the massaged and managed public “debates” on the issue. Sure, the US can absorb poor immigrants, but why is it even necessary?


120 posted on 05/17/2007 3:42:04 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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