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To the Shores of Tripoli (essay by Fred Thompson)
ABC Radio ^ | 05/07/07 | Fred Dalton Thompson

Posted on 05/07/2007 2:18:20 PM PDT by SE Mom

From the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli. We fight our country's battles in the air, on land and sea. First to fight for right and freedom, and to keep our honor clean; We are proud to claim the title of United States Marine.

That’s from the Marine Corp Hymn, of course, and you can thank me for not singing it. When I was a boy, a lot of America kids knew that verse -- and probably a few more. I hope they still do, but I get the impression that might not be the case.

That's one reason I'd like to spend some time talking about the heritage this song represents. Another reason is that the lyrics hold a history lesson critical to America’s future. I realize a lot of you already know this material, but indulge me for the sake of those who might not.

The very first line written for the Marine Corps Hymn, about the shores of Tripoli, refers to America's first foreign war. After the Revolution, U.S. ships were sailing the world in search of trade without British protection. With no real navy to protect our merchants and travelers, American vessels and citizens were being targeted for looting, enslavement and ransom. The enemy was the so-called Barbary pirates -- agents of the North African provinces of the Ottoman Caliphate.

Ransom and protection money were demanded and paid. Stories of terrible treatment of American men and women in the dungeons of North Africa were well known. Behind it all, the country was having a pro- and anti-war debate.

On the one hand were those who took the "no blood for trade" approach. They had legitimate concerns about the cost and political impact of maintaining a standing military. They favored negotiations and payments rather than fighting. For a long time, their side was winning the argument. In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams even went to London to negotiate directly with the envoy from Tripoli.

Several historians and writers have reminded us recently of the ambassador’s nearly forgotten answer. Fortunately, Jefferson prepared a written report for the government and left other records of the incident. Here’s a description from The Atlantic Monthly in 1872:

“Disguising their feelings as best they could, they ‘took the liberty to make some inquiries concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury.’ The ambassador replied that it was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave.” He claimed every one of their guys who was “slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise."

This answer may have helped sway the debate to the side of those who favored military response over further attempts at diplomacy. Some believe it had a personal impact on Jefferson himself, though higher and higher ransoms probably helped too. Congress finally acted, creating the US Navy in 1794. This included approval for the construction and manning of six frigate warships, including the USS Constitution -- which is afloat and commissioned to this day.

Still, though, congress refused to act directly against the Barbary pirates for years. Eventually, between 10 and 20 percent of U.S. revenues would be paid annually without ever buying actual safety for Americans. In the end, Thomas Jefferson acted on his own, sending forces into harm’s way. America entered into its first and protracted foreign war. From beginning to end, in fact, the conflict lasted approximately 14 years. I couldn’t tell you, by the way, if the Barbary wars were ever described as a “quagmire” or "lost."

I won’t describe here the taking of Tripoli by courageous American soldiers. And I sure don’t have time to talk about America's eventual victory over the forces of that era's religiously justified terrorism. I would though encourage you to read about it for yourself. It's a great story and it holds an important lesson about the nature of the world.

Sometimes folks around the world mock Americans for not having more of a sense of history. They might be right, but I think it is often for a good reason. Americans are a people who look to the future instead of the past. We hope and believe that things can and will get better. We are more than willing to forgive our old enemies and move forward together in peace. So we tend to forget the bad things we left behind.

Unfortunately, some of our enemies feel differently. They neither forgive nor forget. Listening to the messages of al Qaida's leaders, you understand that they see their old defeats in very personal and contemporary terms. They are in a “long war” against us, even if we don’t know it. And they’re committed to winning it.


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To: SE Mom; SandRat; freema

And let me remind those who have either forgotten or never knew that the major reason for the United States Marine Corps was to FIGHT the Barbary Pirates who were...anyone? anyone? Starts with a “M” and ends with a “S”...anyone? Muzzzzzzzzzzzlimmmmmmmms!!!!
That’s right! The same POS’ that we still fighting TODAY!
MUSLIMS, MUSLIMS, MUSLIMS!

“Ready 4 Freddy!”

Semper Fi,
Kelly


41 posted on 05/07/2007 3:02:47 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Impressive article. Fred seems to get it. Why can’t everyone else?


42 posted on 05/07/2007 3:03:11 PM PDT by iluvspongebob
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To: SE Mom

Forgiveness is foreign to islam.

BTTT, great article.


43 posted on 05/07/2007 3:08:42 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Too blessed to be stressed.)
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To: SE Mom
From beginning to end, in fact, the conflict lasted approximately 14 years.

Also worth highlighting.

44 posted on 05/07/2007 3:13:33 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Too blessed to be stressed.)
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To: SE Mom
I like Fred, because he seems to have a rather clear view of things. Now I'm not sure he can change politics as we know it, but I like what he says...and if he's half the president his words seem to show, I'll be quite happy.

We're facing a near crisis in our entitlements (mostly on the medical side of things). He's noted this importance, but few have linked the long-term implications this has on our military force. If it's not reviewed now, it can damage our economy and our military. Other than Newt, I think Fred has probably the only chance of raising this issue to prime importance.

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45 posted on 05/07/2007 3:21:29 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: bnelson44

I look forward to debates between Fred and the Democrat nominee. He will filet whomever he faces (hopefully that wench).


46 posted on 05/07/2007 3:25:54 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Squidpup

Thank you for that. I wish Fred Thompson would have brought it all full circle and mentioned this as well. Oh well, at least it’s more than the “religion of peace” tripe that we usually hear.


47 posted on 05/07/2007 3:26:10 PM PDT by badbass
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To: SE Mom
When I was in public grade school we used to sing the song quite often.

Nowadays I bet it would be an ACLU law suit in the making....

48 posted on 05/07/2007 3:26:33 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ExpatGator
He will fillet whomever he faces (hopefully that wench).

PSST, Fred please don't take any walks in any parks after dark without security witnesses.

49 posted on 05/07/2007 3:30:39 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SE Mom
"They are in a “long war” against us, even if we don’t know it. And they’re committed to winning it.

And unfortunately, it seems as if we (the American people) are not - committed to winning!

50 posted on 05/07/2007 3:36:58 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: HAL9000

I read some report that Fred sang with Brooks and Dunn at an event down in Tenn. I bet Fred can probably sing.


51 posted on 05/07/2007 3:45:31 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: SE Mom

Hmmm...


52 posted on 05/07/2007 3:53:13 PM PDT by gunnyg
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To: SE Mom

No offence to some on here, but when exactly do you think we’re gonna see Duncan Hunter write or say anything like this?


53 posted on 05/07/2007 3:55:03 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (A member of the Frederalist Party)
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To: SE Mom
I won’t describe here the taking of Tripoli by courageous American soldiers Marines.

There, corrected it for him. Semper Fi.

54 posted on 05/07/2007 3:57:55 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred, run!)
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To: SE Mom

Fred truly gets it.


55 posted on 05/07/2007 4:00:19 PM PDT by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: SE Mom

Fred Thompson’s message is a great one, and I agree that we all need to understand the long war conceptually. Afghanistan and Iraq are the first two CAMPAIGNS of this long war, so we’d better suck it up and prepare.

And Fred is wrong on one point: it is called The Marines Hymn.

Semper Fi,


56 posted on 05/07/2007 4:05:04 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: RobbyS
You miss the point. Congress has always been controlled by one party or another, after parties arose following the two terms of George Washington. My point is that Thompson's researchers blew their homework.

Congress DID act. It DID authorize military force at the discretion of the President and "across national borders." This is an important point. It is identical to the Iraq situation today. And it is a serious mistake for the Thompson campaign.

That's what Freepers do. On occasion we know from our particular backgrounds a significant fact that the MSM doesn't know.

John / Billybob

57 posted on 05/07/2007 4:07:40 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: SE Mom

I am amazed with his ability to post essays like this nearly every day.


58 posted on 05/07/2007 4:14:56 PM PDT by RDTF (R.I.P. Blue Angel LCDR Kevin Davis)
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To: Congressman Billybob

The substance of the remark is true, that the matter was at the iniative of Jefferson, just as the Embargo Act would be. It wasn’t that debacle that the old magician lost his mastery of Congress. Of course, by then cunning guys like Henry Clay were on the scene.


59 posted on 05/07/2007 4:15:09 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

He could if he wanted to. Hell, any of the candidates could. None of them do though. They seem to be very slow to catch on to what Fred is building here.


60 posted on 05/07/2007 4:15:31 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (http://www.fredrepublic.com/focus/browse)
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