Posted on 05/04/2007 8:54:49 AM PDT by mission9
Ever since that late morning is Dealey Plaza Dallas Texas, November 22nd 1963, the soul of America has been tortured by lingering doubts about the official version of the murder of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. The Chief Justice Earl Warren was appointed by Lyndon Baines Johnson to head the official investigation, the Warren Commission. After reviewing all the evidence, the Commission's final report named Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone gunman responsible.
In 1966, the book, Six Seconds in Dallas, raised important questions pointing to evidence which indicated that there was more than one shooter. More than one shooter would indicate a conspiracy, so the next question would be "Who else was involved"...
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I guess you have never heard the phrase, “Red Mist”. It’s a term from Prairie dog hunters to describe their bullet effects.
Connelly described being showered with blood and everyone is familiar with Jackie’s dress. Take a good look at the frame where JFK is hit and you will see a white streak that goes upward and forward. Connely’s interview is on YouTube. Watch it in his own words.
That motorcycle cop first went to the railroad underpass and didn’t see anyone there. He then parked his motorcycle at the foot of the stairs leading to the “grassy knoll”. He ran up those stairs and then reported “no one was there”.
That cop gave interviews for years while he was in Dallas. He always said the same thing. He even described driving through the mist. He had “something” on his motorcycle helmet that was pointed out to him by fellow officers hours after. He claimed someone tried to buy it off him.
Those crowds of people ran up the stairs and “Past the fence” to watch the limo drive up I35. There was a vantage point where they could watch it.
Take a really good look at the gif on post 176. It shows the two inch impact forward movement. Do you see anything at the back of Kennedy’s head? Anything? Neither do I and I know a bullet hit the back of his head to push his head forward at that moment. Do you see that wound at the front of his face? That isn’t some Hollywood blood pack. That’s real. It’s not make believe.
Look at that white streak going forward and upward. The next frames show Connlly react so violently, he hits the back of the front seat. Small hole in, Large hole out.
Thank you but you really should treat this like a shooting incident such as it was. Trace the trajectories and the ballistics. There is no evidence from any direction but the sixth floor.
It looks to me like his head is hit from the front.
Okay. I see what you're driving at.
Alright, listen.
Once again I will point to Posner's Case Closed appendices to list the numerous people who have made dubious and extraordinary claims about their relation with the assassination of JFK, from bar flies to strippers to military men to hobos. The great majority of the best known are listed and discredited based upon facts, time over the years, and evidence which excludes them. Some have innocent mistaken recollections, others testimonies are simply misinterpreted by the conspiracists (by accident or design of omission), and others are just plain deranged. I'd advise you to take a look at Posner's book and exclude the ones that satisfy you best.
As for Howard Hunt, well, let's just say that his profile fits in swell with the satellite ring of wackos that orbited the Nixon Administration.
Exactly.
LBJ....a future president of the U.S.?
What nonsense.
Thanks. I was just emailing my cousin’s son who’s been doing a report on this and sent it out over our Bronson email network. He had pages from FBI reports and some other things. One of my uncle’s daughters told us about the last time the film was subjected to analysis and the results as well as where the film is now.
I see the TSBD at the end of the film. It's too far away for even modern forensics to determine whether there's movement or not. If it ever becomes possible to do so, I would expect that it would show the TSBD workers mentioned previously.
It is footage of Dealey Plaza on the day JFK was murdered. That seems clear enough.
Thank you.
I believe Santos Trafficante, and not Gerald Posner. That guy is a little too light in the loafers to be impeachable. Look a Posner’s background, he is a piece of work.
Katie Couric loved it.
>Yeah, that is a great moonbat point of reference. If Dick Cheney is such a lying, conniving SOB why hasn’t he dusted off POTUS so he can fly in Air Force ONE<
Moonbat? I beg your pardon? Point of reference? Granted, I was making light of it, (”Be careful who you choose for VP”), but did you read the article? It was about Kennedy’s VP LBJ and the possibility of his having something to do with killing JFK. Like Jacquie, I have also wondered about that. What has Cheney got to do with it?
You watch too many movies.
I just looked in my hardbound book copy of the Warren Commission. He’s still not listed as a witness.
If the governemt knows about the film, why isn’t it listed in the evidence? Why are you the only person claiming it exists at all?
Sorry, I don’t believe what you are posting.
A picture’s worth a thousand words.
Zepurder (sp!) had something.
:-)
New film ("The George Jefferies Film") has already been revealed that shows how the back brace Kennedy wore at the time led to the bunching up of the material of his suit jacket
And how does that explain how the material in his shirt 'bunched up' to line up the holes in both jacket & shirt, as per the photos in the Report? Do tailored shirts [worn under/over backbraces?] in effect glue themselves to jackets? -- I doubt it.
as he sat in the limousine at a higher plane than did Governor Connally. Pause the embedded film right at 00:25 to see ths effect.
This new film shows clearly what the counter-conspriracists (for lack of a better term, the 'Lone Gunman Believers' if you like that better) have been saying since that time in discrediting the notion of the 'zig-zagging' bullet.
This is not the first film that shows the bunching up of the material, nor the relative height difference between the President and Governor Connally, it's just the clearest. In fact, see how Sen. Arlen Specter demonstrates exactly this fact in the link above.
Your link to the photo at post #161 shows the height difference, which is an uncontested fact. It also shows the offset of JFK to the left, Connally to the right, - from Oswald's line of sight. - Somehow Specters magic bullet went through the mid line of JFK, then ended up entering Connally on his right side, creating "the notion of the 'zig-zagging' bullet".
If you're aware of this film and simply don't believe it or buy the explanation of why it matters, then you're willfully ignorant because you simply want to believe in conspiracy.
Well, you're aware of the photo at #161 and simply don't believe it or buy the explanation of why it matters. - Does this mean that you're willfully ignorant because you simply want to believe in the lone gunman theory?
Maybe it's just that you greatly dislike Sen. Arlen Specter for some reason. Well, you would have quite a lot of company here on FR, but that's no reason to disregard the Warren Commission Report.
Why do you 'regard' the Warren Report as gospel? Many other parts of it are a botched up mess, besides & beyond Specters fantasies.
Really, tpaine: Kennedy's bunched-up suit coat, the difference in seated height between the two men, the downhill slope of Elm Street away from the TSBD, and the 'flying drill' ballistic characteristics of 6.5 Carcano military ball ammo are the sum of what mechanics were involved in the third shot causing the wounds and bullet path that you believe to be evidence of conspiracy.
You've got to be kidding; "-- flying drill --"? Good grief.
This evidence has been available for forty-plus years. The only people remaining who believe in conspiracy are those uneducated by the facts (i.e., most who still believe in something more than Lee Harvey Oswald being the lone gunman, for whatever unfounded reason though they don't quite know why they believe what they do) or those conspiracists that want to ignore certain critical evidence to shape their pet reasonings for conspiracy because they're trying to sell spooky books, sell a paranoiac political idea, or cover up the embarassing fact that an adolescent-minded left wing Commie moonbat with undiagnosed sociopathic rage issues murdered our President in order to make the world remember his name forever.
Great rant. - I'm not a conspiracist, and I don't want to ignore certain critical [factual] evidence. Bring it on, -- you've had forty years to do so.
The factual evidence I've seen to date does not support the Reports 'Oswald as lone gunman theory' beyond a reasonable doubt.
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