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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious bigotry, alive and well today

May 4, 2007 - by Saundra Duffy-Hawkins

“I wouldn’t vote for a Mormon for dogcatcher, much less President of the United States!” There’s a lot of that kind of hateful rhetoric going around since Mitt Romney decided to throw his hat in the ring – as if Mormons are some kind of hideous evil monsters. The loudest anti-Mormon shouts, sad to say, are coming from America’s so-called “Christian right”. How can Mitt Romney hope to get a fair shake in this spiritually polluted atmosphere?

There was another man running for President who faced the same dilemma – John F. Kennedy – only he was the target of anti-CATHOLIC bigotry. In his 1960 speech to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association, JFK said the following: “. . .I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end - where all men and all churches are treated as equal - where man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice - where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind - and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their words in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood.” John F. Kennedy Library & Museum (Speeches, 1960). By the way, if you listen to the audio version of JFK’s speech, you will hear the hurt and frustration in his voice and the unfair treatment surely must have caused many a sleepless night.

Fast forward to 2007 where JFK might as well have been “whistlin’ Dixie”. The hostility toward Mormons today, in my opinion, is even worse than that suffered by JFK. Although it is said that JFK lost about a million votes to religious intolerance, Romney stands to lose even more if the anti-Mormon evangelicals hang together.

According to Media Matters for America - “. . . a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media” - FOX News is not reporting accurately on the level of evangelical hostility to the Romney run. Media Matters for America points out that among evangelical leaders rejecting Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson (National Day of Prayer and Focus on the Family, respectively), the Southern Baptist Convention (collectively), Pat Robertson (Christian Broadcasting Network), and Dr. D. James Kennedy (Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Florida). “Among many conservative evangelicals – who comprise a significant part of the Republican base – Mormonism is considered an un-Christian cult.” Media Matters for America (2007)

While stumping in Florida, a man in the audience stood up during the Q&A portion and said the following to Romney: “You, sir, you’re a pretender. You do not know the Lord. You’re a Mormon.” Media Matters for America (2007). This is the kind of un-American, disrespectful treatment Mitt Romney will apparently have to endure throughout the entire campaign – as if just being a Mormon is reason enough to open the floodgates for free flow of pent-up hatred and vindictiveness.

For the record, the Mormon bashers know full well that the official name of Romney’s church is “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” and the members should rightfully be called “members of the LDS Church” but the words “Mormon” and “Mormonism” have an aura of negativity so they prefer to use the “M” word as if it were dirty.

Less than five minutes cruising around the official LDS website (LDS.org) will show anyone who’s interested that the Church is a Christian organization, with Jesus Christ at the Head. There are no paid clergy – all are volunteers. Humanitarian aid is legendary. Members of the LDS Church believe in strong family values; they are patriotic, they are law-abiding upstanding citizens of their community. Many LDS young men right out of high school go on two-year missions – you know, the guys on bikes – and during their mission they don’t date, read newspapers, go to movies or watch TV; but rather they dedicate two years of their lives to serving others. Many women go on missions as well, and couples, only theirs is 18 months in length but the obligations are basically the same. Most members do not shop or go out to eat on Sundays – reminiscent of the good old days when shops and stores were closed in obedience to the Commandment, “Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy”. If they can help it, LDS Church members do not work on Sundays, either, preferring to spend the day at church and with their families. Church members are encouraged to store up a year’s supply of food and water so they will be able to care for their families in the event of an emergency. The LDS Church believes in self-sufficiency and self-reliance but in the event of a financial hardship the Church distributes food and supplies through their welfare (Bishop’s Storehouse) program. Members of the LDS Church do not drink alcohol nor do they use illicit drugs; they do not drink coffee and tea. A Mormon in good standing, therefore, will not be found in a drunken stupor puking her guts out at 3 a.m. anywhere in the world. Furthermore, members of the church are encouraged to dress modestly, be polite and courteous. And members of the LDS Church are faithful tithe payers. Come on, people, what’s not to love?

So what on earth is their beef, the anti-Mormon zealots? Why is there such disdain for the LDS Church and its members? In Hugh Hewitt’s book, “Mormon in the White House?” he states his thesis that the fierce anti-Mormon sentiment among main-stream Christians stems from one or two or all three of the following factors (in order of importance):

1) “It is just too weird.

2) “A Mormon president will supercharge Mormons’ missionary work.

3) “If there is a Mormon in the White House, Salt Lake City will call the shots, at least on the biggest issues.” Hewitt (2007, p. 221-227)

Hugh Hewitt has written an exquisite book about the Romney campaign and overcoming the “Mormon problem.” It’s a good read and I highly recommend it. Of the three problem points listed in the previous paragraph, Hewitt believes – unless some unforeseen blunder destroys his chances – none of the three is insurmountable for Mitt Romney. (Plus, he has the best hair.)

Well, I’m no Hugh Hewitt, not even close; he’s an icon on the conservative radio talk show circuit. Hewitt could talk circles around me (I’ve seen him in action in Sacramento); he’s brilliant; he’s well educated, well read, no doubt a genius, plus he’s kind of cute. I’m basically a “nobody” – an overweight grandma – but after having researched for this paper, I have come to a totally different conclusion as to why there is such in-your-face angst over Romney’s religion of choice: It’s all about money, power and control (in that order). I think they’re (the evangelical religious bigots, that is) scared half to death and are revving up their attacks, not to save souls, but to save their reputations (which if tarnished would lead to financial ruin).

As I said, all one must do is browse around the LDS official web site to see what the LDS Church believes and stands for. Any reasonable person would conclude that Mormons are not evil monsters at all. In fact, they are God fearing, Christ believing, Holy Ghost following people going about doing good. “You will know them by their fruit” and the LDS has plenty of fruit and they are willing to share.

Earlier, I stated that some high-powered ministries have publicly condemned Mormons: Shirley and James Dobson, the Southern Baptist Convention, Pat Robertson, and Dr. D. James Kennedy – just to name a few. There are hoards of others. Sunday after Sunday, preachers, evangelists, reverends and ministers from all Christian denominations pound the pulpit with anti-Mormon rhetoric. I heard the message loud clear when I was a Baptist and when I tiptoed through evangelical/Pentecostal territories. Was I ever miffed when I later learned for myself the Gospel truth about the LDS Church.

Just think about it, please. If Dr. D. James Kennedy, for example, who wrote the book, The Wolves Among Us, were to admit he’d been wrong in labeling the LDS Church a “cult” that leads unwary ignorant people astray (to hell), what would become of his multi-million-dollar ministry? Suffice it to say, there’s big money to be had by sale of books, tapes, CD’s, videos, and other anti-Mormon propaganda, not to mention speaking engagements and world-wide religious crusades. We’re talking trillions, all told. I realize the anti-Mormon aspect of these ministries is but a small portion of the business, but if the truth came out, that they had been using falsehoods about the LDS Church as a cash cow, their entire empires could tumble.

The ABC News program 20/20 aired on March 23, 2007, exposed the lavish lifestyles of some of the top evangelical preachers – million dollar mansions and personal jets. ABC News - 20/20 (2007) (Again, the LDS Church has no paid clergy.)

It’s nothing new. Severe harassment and persecution has been the lot of the LDS Church since it’s inception in 1820 when a 14-year-old boy named Joseph Smith saw visions and communed with heavenly beings. Rather than discuss the spiritual aspects of the LDS Church, however, let’s stick to facts of history. Taken from a college-level early American history textbook, Joseph Smith, upon experiencing the visions and visitations, believed “that God had work for me to do, and that my name should be for good and evil among all nations, kindreds and tongues.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 292). The textbook continues, “They were met with hostility virtually everywhere they went . . . . As the movement gathered momentum, hundreds of people joined the church; entire congregations of churches of other faiths joined . . .” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 293)

During the dark time of American history when slavery was flourishing and when Native Americans were forced from their lands, the pioneers of the LDS Church also suffered at the hands of unscrupulous politicians, governmental leaders, and angry hate-filled mobs. “In the face of relentless persecution, Joseph Smith, the founder of the church, had led his flock to Illinois. There they had established the town of Nauvoo, which by the mid-1840’s had become the largest city in Illinois with over 15,000 people. . . In June 1844, a mob of non-Mormons broke into the jail where Smith was being held and killed both him and his brother. . .The Mormons abandoned Nauvoo in the spring of 1846 as anti-Mormons pounded the town with cannon, destroying the Great Temple. In a well-coordinated migration, 15,000 Mormons moved in stages to the Great Salt Lake.” Ayers, Gould, Oshinsky, and Soderlund (2004, p. 334-335) Many walked all the way and many died along the way, including innocent babes.

Joseph Smith at one time was tarred and feathered by a mob. No jury, no trial, no judge – and they had planned to castrate him, too. On October 27, 1838, the then governor of Missouri issued an “extermination order”: “The Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State if necessary . . .” Far West History (n.d.) Please note that the order called for exterminating “Mormons” making no distinction between men, women and children, and indeed women and children were subject to the extermination order.

In an event known in LDS history as “the Haun’s Mill Massacre”, precipitated by the extermination order, 30 to 40 LDS families were surprised by some 200 to 250 militia. After the smoke cleared, seventeen LDS people lay dead including a ten-year-old boy. Thirteen LDS members were wounded including a woman and a seven-year-old boy. “A few Missourians returned the next day and took plunder.” LDS FAQ (n.d.) No Missouri militiamen were killed but three were wounded. Just a few years earlier, the LDS folk who died that day had been members of other churches - Congregational or Methodist or Baptist or Presbyterian.

In l976, Governor Bond of Missouri officially rescinded the extermination order and presented apologies for the “unfortunate developments” it caused. Quoting from Governor Bond’s Executive Order: “WHEREAS, Governor Boggs’ order clearly contravened the rights to life, liberty, property and religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, as well as the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and . . . Expressing on behalf of all Missourians our deep regret for the injustice and undue suffering rescind Executive Order Number 44 dated October 27, 1838, issued by Governor W. Boggs. . .” Far West History (n.d.) The individuals who harassed, abused, and even murdered Mormons in cold blood were never tried for their crimes.

I read Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Letter from Birmingham Jail and it really touched my heart. There he was, suffering for the Lord in jail, and these religious leaders with highfalutin titles on the outside wrote an open letter (“A Call for Unity”) in which they criticize King’s tactics and basically blame King for the racial turmoil of the time. Though you can tell King is upset and hurt by the attack – made worse because he’s stuck in jail and can’t confront the religious leaders face-to-face – his response is gentle genius. “I wish you had commended the Negro sit-inners and demonstrators of Birmingham for their sublime courage, their willingness to suffer, and their amazing discipline in the midst of great provocation. One day the South will recognize its real heroes.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 881)

King has a few choice words for the Church, too: “If today’s church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.” Barnet and Bedau (2005, p. 880)

King signs off with “Yours for the cause of Peace and Brotherhood”.

There’s an eerie commonality between what JFK and MLK endured at the hands of the religious bigots of their day and what Mitt Romney is facing today. I hope and pray that Romney will be able to fend off these undeserved attacks from the religious hypocrites with the same grace, dignity and God-inspired resolve displayed by the other two.

A few popular bumper stickers read: “Honk if you love Jesus” and “Christians aren’t perfect, just forgiven” or “Jesus is my co-pilot”. Yet, apparently, these same bumper-sticker Christians are the ones waging war against Mitt Romney’s run for the Presidency solely on the basis of his chosen faith in a Church that bears the name of the Savior of the world.

References

ABC News - 20/20 (2007). Philanthropic donations come from your heart, but where do they end up? Ex-money manager says "enough!" to secretive Christian Ministry spending. Glenn Ruppel & John Stossel. United States: ABC News.

Ayers, E. L., Gould, L. L., Oshinsky, D. M., & Soderlund, J. R. (2004). American Passages - a history of the United States - Volume I: to 1877 (2nd ed.). Belmont, California: Thomson/Wadsworth.

Barnet, S., & Bedau, H. (2005). Letter from Birmingham Jail. Current Issues and Enduring Questions - a guide to critical thinking and argument, with readings (7th ed., pp. 867-882). Boston and New York: Bedford/St. Martin's.

Far West History. (n.d.). The Extermination Order and how it was rescinded. Retrieved April 28, 2007, from http://www.jwha.info/mmff/exorder.htm

Hewitt, H. (2007). A Mormon in the White House? 10 things every American should know about Mitt Romney. Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, Inc.

John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum. (1960, September 12). Address of Senator John F. Kennedy to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://www.jfklibrary.org

Lds Faq. (n.d.). What was the Haun's Mill Massacre? Retrieved April 28-2007, 2004, from Brigham Young University Web Site: http://ldsfaq.byu.edu/view.asp?q=57

Media Matters for America. (2007). Fox News whitewashes evangelical hostility to Romney's faith. Retrieved April 22, 2007, from http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200702280002


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To: MHGinTN
Is it Marriott’s profound religious convictions which allow that family to make millions and millions off of the porn they pipe into their hotels knowing that is what they are piping into their hotels?

Yeah, but does the family star in that porn they pipe into their hotels?

Actually, I thought I had been denying that Romney gave any indications of "profound religious convictions".

As for the porn, do you examine the theology of every other porn-piping hotel/motel chain? Or just Mormons? If you found a Presbyterian or Methodist family piping porn into their hotel rooms, would you then disqualify all Presbyterians (or Methodists) from elective office?
521 posted on 05/05/2007 12:28:34 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: colorcountry

Thanks for your reply...I will mull it over...wish I could continue, but right now, I am awaiting a visit from a plumber, so have to get off line, and anxiously see if I am going to be bankrupt over my plumbing problem...LOL...but I will be sure to check back in, as I find this conversation very interesting...thanks again for your replies...


522 posted on 05/05/2007 12:30:09 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: DelphiUser; JRochelle; Saundra Duffy

Prove it does. I want a list of all of the churches in America where this very morning the pastor stood up in front of the congregation and preached against Mormonism.

Now, if you follow that logically, it’s a good thing. Protestants do not follow Moronism. Mormons do.


523 posted on 05/05/2007 12:30:33 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: needlenose_neely

Knock it off!


525 posted on 05/05/2007 12:33:59 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: needlenose_neely; DelphiUser

Let me play the part of Moderator.

You two stop it! Play nice. I value the input and perspective the two of you bring to this topic. Now go to your corners....find someone else to play with.

BTW I raised five children. If you don’t straighten up, I will tell your father! :-D


526 posted on 05/05/2007 12:36:12 PM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: colorcountry; xzins
Mormons are very, very good at being good people. Many are very, very bad at humility and admitting their own sins. They are “proud” as one poster put it. They do not look to the Savior for salvation...

So...you're saying they're just like other churches?

Just kidding. You are correct of course. The primary objection we more orthodox Christians have to Mormonism is that it is process-based. It is about what you do to appease God. Instead, we follow the Bible when it says that we can do nothing to achieve our own salvation but that it is given by God Himself.

God is the Author of salvation. Not some mere "obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel."

Joseph Smith didn't revive the ancient church. He re-invented Pharisaism with some hokum, poorly digested history, and a hodgepodge of Masonry thrown in.
527 posted on 05/05/2007 12:37:27 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: George W. Bush

Yes, and I am as guilty as the rest.

In my zeal to defend Christianity, I often offend. I let my pride get the best of me. It is in precisely those moments I realize just how sinful I am, and how much I need a Savior to justify me in the sight of a loving but JUST God who abhors ALL sin.


528 posted on 05/05/2007 12:42:23 PM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

TYPO. Mormonism in the last sentence. If others are offended, I apologize. I would never try to use the word moron as a spin tactic.


530 posted on 05/05/2007 12:55:42 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: Saundra Duffy

ping for later


531 posted on 05/05/2007 1:12:45 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: colorcountry
Yes, and I am as guilty as the rest.

Join the crowd.

In my zeal to defend Christianity, I often offend. I let my pride get the best of me. It is in precisely those moments I realize just how sinful I am, and how much I need a Savior to justify me in the sight of a loving but JUST God who abhors ALL sin.

Spoken like any child of God. It is always good to recall that God doesn't want us to live in shame or defeat though. We should confess our sins, and try to overcome them through Him and for Him. In the same way you would not want your own children to grovel or to be caught in some counterproductive guilt, God wants us to succeed at living lives pleasing to Him.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. - Matthew 11:30 KJV

532 posted on 05/05/2007 1:17:11 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
TYPO.

I'm thinking we were all too thick-skinned (or thick-skulled) to have noticed it until you apologized for it. LOL.
533 posted on 05/05/2007 1:18:54 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: Degaston

I am sorry in order to have a cover up you have to have facts, and we are still wondering about the details I think to say things like that, is only your opinion.

We seem to have all of kinds of speculations about one side and nil of what provoke this?

It should have not happen if those involved had listen to council from Brigham Young to wait on the Lord. Those involved not only defied Brigham Young they showed little faith in the Lord to take council.

It you study history of the Church you will see a pattern and what happen at MMM is foreign to the pattern.

So to blame Brigham Young when in the pass he follows the pattern of trusting in the Lord is too accused Brigham Young of not having faith in the Lord.

If you knew anythink about the Church “proud or pride” is carefully used and what is this technically terminology?

I am convert and was converted by the power of the Holy Spirit so there is nothing technically about it!

Unless you are one of those who never had a testimony?

Beware of Pride
http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1989.htm/ensign%20may%201989.htm/beware%20of%20pride.htm


534 posted on 05/05/2007 1:30:35 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: DelphiUser

What were you, a mormon, doing in those churches? :)

I would suspect that in certian areas in the south and in places where a lot of Mormons live that preaching against Mormonism does happen.

But I have never seen or heard it. It is not a standard practice of most churches. What the author of this thread wrote just isn’t true.


535 posted on 05/05/2007 1:43:40 PM PDT by JRochelle (Al Sharpton: Its hard out here for a race pimp.)
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To: DelphiUser; JRochelle

There has been in our foyer are on the 3rd flood where the chapel is folks who have drop off flyers or pamlets which were anti LDS on our lamp tables.

We have had a few with signs standing in from on Sunday trying to intimidate.

Since the early eighty our region was trying to build a Temple in areas that was still not build up like wide open field etc. and we keep getting oppositions by the professional propagators.

So Our Prophet knew it was urgent that we have a temple and decided to build about our Chapel in NYC.

There was some opposition but the Utah crowd did not have much voice until open house which they were there camped out doing their thing and how did we know because they are familiar their photos have been taken in different location that they have showed up!


536 posted on 05/05/2007 2:44:39 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: FastCoyote

“Is there any point at all where you would consider religion a disqualifier?”

Speaking for myself, no. Now, there may be situations where the person’s religion affects his or her policy and politics; if those politics were opposed to mine, I would oppose the candidate.


537 posted on 05/05/2007 3:23:12 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: colorcountry
Hi, it IS very nice to see you once again on a Mormon thread. Don't you frequent most of them?

Only to entertain myself with the balistic nuts. lol.

538 posted on 05/05/2007 3:24:38 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; Religion Moderator
Did you know that there is a standing admonition against personal attacks?

I sure do. Let me know when you see one.

539 posted on 05/05/2007 3:25:59 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: JRochelle

Ya mean like you back up your charge of a “damn lie”?


540 posted on 05/05/2007 3:28:46 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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