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Ocean currents to blame for [global]warming: expert
The Daily Telegraph (Australia) ^ | April 30, 2007 | Dab Elliott in Denver

Posted on 04/30/2007 12:56:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

THE United States' leading hurricane forecaster says global ocean currents, not human-produced carbon dioxide, are responsible for global warming.

William Gray, a Colorado State University researcher, also said the Earth may begin to cool on its own in five to 10 years.

Speaking to a group of Republican MPs, Dr Gray had harsh words for researchers and politicians who said man-made greenhouse gases were responsible for global warming.

"They are blaming it all on humans, which is crazy," he said.

"We're not the cause of it."

Dr Gray said in the past 40 years the number of serious hurricanes making landfall on the US Atlantic coast had declined even though carbon dioxide levels had risen.

He said increasing levels of carbon dioxide would not produce more, or stronger, hurricanes.

Dr Gray, 77, has long criticised the theory that heat-trapping gases generated by human activity are causing the world to warm.

Earlier this month, he dubbed former US vice-president and 2000 Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore "a gross alarmist" for making the Oscar-winning documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, which helped focus media attention on global warming.

Yesterday, Dr Gray said that politics and research into global warming had created "almost an industry" that had frightened the public and overwhelmed dissenting voices.

He said research arguing that humans were causing global warming was "mush" based on unreliable computer models that could not possibly take into account the hundreds of factors that influenced the weather.

He said little-understood ocean currents were behind a decades-long warming cycle, and disputed assertions that greenhouse gases could raise global temperatures as much as some scientists predicted.

"There's no way that doubling CO2 is going to cause that amount of warming," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: algore; climatechange; globalwarming; gorebullwarming
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To: Doomonyou

The fragile ocean currents were permanently altered in 1968 when an 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88 veered off a bridge.


21 posted on 04/30/2007 1:44:50 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: capt. norm

I didn’t know that!

My reference was to the weather channel chick who said the global warming discussion was over and no meteorologist who disputed that should be allowed to work for the WC. Given your post, I’m guessing there are a lot of reasons someone might not want to work for them.


22 posted on 04/30/2007 1:46:02 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Puppage
I blame the Mars Rove

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23 posted on 04/30/2007 1:48:11 PM PDT by beeber (stuned)
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To: massgopguy

The resulting tsunami alone .... I won’t go there ...


24 posted on 04/30/2007 1:51:16 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: wolfcreek

That is because the jet stream moved and was sheering off the tops of storms before they could really form.


25 posted on 04/30/2007 1:56:23 PM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: massgopguy

I can see that.


26 posted on 04/30/2007 1:56:57 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


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Good catch
27 posted on 04/30/2007 2:02:24 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: fatez

Those damned unpredictable El Ninos and La Ninas


28 posted on 04/30/2007 2:12:53 PM PDT by wolfcreek (DON'T MESS WITH A NATION IN NEED OF MEDICATION !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

29 posted on 04/30/2007 2:16:25 PM PDT by Gritty (Scratch a global warming "scientist" and you get a religious fanatic - Ann Coulter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The three biggies:

• Ocean Currents • Jet Stream • Solar Activity

If the tiny little area of the planet you live on is to dry, to wet, to cold, to hot, to dusty, to windy, to stormy, you can put blame on one or more of the above three factors of weather.

And Man has no control one way or another on any of these.


30 posted on 04/30/2007 2:17:38 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
A lot of the GW critics seem to be some combination of older scientists and tenured academics. Probably because they aren’t trolling for grant money, or kowtowing to “warmist” university faculty for fear of being bumped off the tenure track.

BINGO.

31 posted on 04/30/2007 2:18:33 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Speaking to a group of Republican MPs,

Silly Aussie journalist, we don't have MPs.
32 posted on 04/30/2007 2:30:06 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: HKMk23

We all know the cause of global warming on Mars is the recent introduction of two SUVs to the planet.


33 posted on 04/30/2007 2:43:05 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: beeber

34 posted on 04/30/2007 3:22:20 PM PDT by honolulugal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone tell Michael Moore to get out of the sea already.


35 posted on 04/30/2007 3:23:58 PM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: NavyCanDo

I just want to know why Lake Missoula had to flood so much of the west so dramatically:

http://www.glaciallakemissoula.org/virtualtour/lakemissoula.html

Surely Albore should have been around then, and he would have found a way to prevent this catastrophe!!


36 posted on 04/30/2007 4:13:34 PM PDT by Enchante (Defeatocrats: Surrender Now, for Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: NavyCanDo
• Ocean Currents • Jet Stream • Solar Activity

Amazing that we live on an Ocean Planet where the consensus of the sentient species is that little tiny land apes control the global weather.

37 posted on 04/30/2007 7:39:57 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Puppage

Whatever the cause, it’s Bush’s fault/s


38 posted on 04/30/2007 8:06:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Role of the Ocean Conveyor Belt as a Cause of Global Multidecadal Climate by William M. Gray, Colorado State University
39 posted on 05/01/2007 5:17:05 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: honolulugal
Ha ha! a Mars bat?!?

40 posted on 05/01/2007 6:29:08 AM PDT by beeber (stuned)
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