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If Terrible Tommy DiLorenzo is going to be there then there must not be much history to it.
1 posted on 04/25/2007 10:11:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

There is a long tradition of all Americans honoring both North and South. That is a good tradition and should be continued. It doesn’t make the South right. It just means that all were Americans before, and after. (Of course I just set off a firestorm among the confederates here at FR who will lecture us on how the south WAS right...which only illustrates the point that we need to honor both sides...not just the South, or not just the North).


2 posted on 04/25/2007 10:15:01 AM PDT by ConservativeDude (")
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To: Non-Sequitur

I wish they would “try” Sherman. Lee was a role model for us all.


5 posted on 04/25/2007 10:22:32 AM PDT by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Help stamp out liberalism!)
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6 posted on 04/25/2007 10:24:02 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Churchill was right.

And I’m a native of the Land of Lincoln and a Son of Union Veterans, who likes his history pc-free.


7 posted on 04/25/2007 10:24:24 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Fred Thompson 2008)
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If Terrible Tommy DiLorenzo is going to be there then there must not be much history to it.

Agree with that. DiLorenzo just uses figures like Lee to push his kooky Libertarian propaganda.

And the premise "villain or noblest ever" is seriously flawed. Lee was neither.

10 posted on 04/25/2007 10:34:51 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: freedomfiter2; SWEETSUNNYSOUTH; BnBlFlag; catfish1957; afnamvet; StoneWall Brigade; L98Fiero; ...

ping!


13 posted on 04/25/2007 10:38:42 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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There is a powerful insight into the character of
Robert Edward Lee. I have read that he was not charged with even one demerit during his time at West Point. Usually first year cadets get a few demerits only because they screw up out of ignorance. It is also a tribute to him, at the time, that when he handed his sword to U.S. Grant, Grant immediatly returned it. It is a hard thing to take, now, that his stature is being questioned when his character was so well illuminated and esteemed IN HIS TIME.


14 posted on 04/25/2007 10:43:51 AM PDT by abenaki
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I’ve been to Lee’s home in Virginia. It’s a small house, but with a wonderful view................and the neighbors are some of the best and brightest in America..........


17 posted on 04/25/2007 10:51:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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Lee was a traitor, who resigned from his teaching position at West Point to fight for the Confederacy. I see him the same as the deluded Americans that have gone to fight for the Taliban.

Lee should have been hung, and his army decimated, in the Roman sense of the term.


21 posted on 04/25/2007 10:56:59 AM PDT by G-Bear (Religiously, five times a day, I turn my back on Mecca and fart!)
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Lee freed the fmily slaves as soon as he inherited them. That is more than Grant did,a dn freeign all of them is more than Lincoln ever did.

General Lee was a great American from a family of great Americans. His uncle was the one who wrote the resolution on independence.


61 posted on 04/25/2007 11:34:26 AM PDT by TBP
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Lee freed the fmily slaves as soon as he inherited them. That is more than Grant did, and freeing all of them is more than Lincoln ever did or hoped to do.

General Lee was a great American from a family of great Americans. His uncle was the one who wrote the resolution on independence.


62 posted on 04/25/2007 11:35:03 AM PDT by TBP
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If Terrible Tommy DiLorenzo is going to be there then there must not be much history to it.

Still stung by the way he exposed lincoln, eh?

64 posted on 04/25/2007 11:35:48 AM PDT by TBP
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If Terrible Tommy DiLorenzo is going to be there then there must not be much history to it.

Yep, much better to sit down and watch a literal whitewash of historical fact on the History Channel about a arsonist, murdering, terroristic, and racist war criminal eh?

83 posted on 04/25/2007 11:57:23 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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Just because the South was wrong doesn’t mean that there weren’t good, godly, noble men who fought for it for reasons of their own.

General Lee definitely fits that bill.


104 posted on 04/25/2007 12:25:08 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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Lee was respected and loved by both sides if anyone doesn't think he’s not noble then they need there head checked
116 posted on 04/25/2007 12:40:31 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Charge'em Both Ways)
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"Lee was a military man, so he very seldom said anything about politics. But after the war, he did."

Lee saw the war as "a continuation of the battle between the Hamiltonian consolidationists and the Jeffersonian decentralists," says Mr. DiLorenzo, referring to the "remarkable correspondence" between Lee and British statesman Lord John Acton in 1866.

What a frigging moron! DiLorenzo projects his own simplistic categories onto everything he examines.

Lee's father had been a Federalist. One could almost say that the Jeffersonians had killed him.

Lee had an emotional loyalty to Virginia, and "went with his state."

But however he rationalized his decision later, it would be wrong to simply enlist him in a political movement that he didn't adhere to.

124 posted on 04/25/2007 1:05:21 PM PDT by x
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Good reading. Back to class...


130 posted on 04/25/2007 1:23:10 PM PDT by Van Jenerette (U.S.Army, 1967-1991, Infantry OCS Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning)
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But has political correctness turned Robert E. Lee into a villain?

Well, revisionist history has if anything else. Besides, if Lee was such a villian, why didn't Grant try him for treason after the Confederacy surrendered?

150 posted on 04/25/2007 2:01:49 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (hosts the Singles thread this weekend. Join the festivities!)
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Let’s See.....

Slavery.....ummm!

I support the troops but I don’t support the mission (slavery).

Where have I heard this before? Am I on the right forum? Has my computer mysteriously taken me to DU land?


175 posted on 04/25/2007 4:57:43 PM PDT by TheInvisibleMan
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Not a villain!!

231 posted on 04/28/2007 6:47:55 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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