Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement

(From a thread) | Credit to Spiff for the chart and flashbunny for the grapics

[Jim Robinson]

Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement (and a knife in the back).

The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	SupportsOpposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

[b_sharp]

"Nice post Sharpy."

Thanks Walsh, but my first post was sarcasm, and the rest of my posts were not about Guiliani, whom I don't give a rat's ass about, but about Jim Robinson who seems intent on making this site exclusive to a small minority viewpoint through the use of Stalinist tactics. I've always thought that one of the bedrock values of Conservatism was free speech.

If Jimbo wants to convince others that Guiliani is evil he should do so using the methods of the Founding Fathers, reason and discourse.

I do not understand how anyone can follow him after witnessing his recent actions. But that's just me.

[jwalsh07]

LOL, I knew that, though I think you pulled the clover over the other guys eyes, which is why I only commented on the generic leadership post you made.

I think the banning thing has gotten out of control but we must always bear in mind the tragedy of the commons and this site is not a commons. Such is life.

[b_sharp]

Walsh old fellow, my answer was not to you but to the lurkers and JR, I suspected you understood.

I find it very sad that a lot of good people are being driven out needlessly.

[cva66snipe]

The party and the nation must change course soon. Neither can survive the current direction we are headed in. The coup which occurred in the GOP leadership around 1996 has rendered it useless to Conservative causes. Until the liberals are taken out of control of the GOP such things as the RNC which controls a major portion of funding it simply won’t get better. These are the same thing as what was once called Rockefeller Republicans. They are they same as liberal Dems except they are pro-big business. They don’t value any of the other Republican agendas and see them as being in the way. Among the issues Rockefeller Republicans will surrender on the the DEMs is guns, abortion, personal taxes, the United Nations, just for starters. This minority within the GOP now controls the party.

[rwilson99]

Basically swap out the red for Rudy’s support of Iraq, Afghanistan and the Patriot Act... and replace it with red regarding Trump’s support of the Republican Platform on immigration and you’re done.

The new graphic can be in pink in honor of Trump using the Code Pink talking points on Saturday.

[nickcarraway]

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