Posted on 04/19/2007 4:47:03 AM PDT by dangus
The following are ties Cho had to Islam. They are not offered as proof of anything, but merely to prompt consideration or disproof of any links.
Cho’s father lived in Saudi Arabia as a young, single man. His sister works for a State Department contractor which oversees billions of dollars of aid for Iraq. Previously, she worked in Bangkok. (1)
Both of Cho’s plays are about sexual abuse. (2) Bangkok is a city famous for its sex trade, which caters especially to Muslim businessmen.
Cho’s rampage was on Holocaust Remembrance day. Although probably a happenstance, one of the professors he killed was a Jewish holocaust survivor. (3)
Cho used the pseudonym Ismael Ax. Ismael (or, Ismail) is the son of Abraham who became the ancestor of all Arabs, as opposed to Israel who became ancestor of all Jews (4). Although there are many Western references to this person, and many literary characters named “Ishmael,” that spelling is Hebraic. “Ismael” or “Ismail” is uniquely Arabic. Ismaili is also a branch of Shiite Islam (5)
In each play, Cho’s characters rant about the horrible decadence of American life. Targets include McDonalds, the Roman Catholic church, Michael Jackson and the NFL. (2).
Cho is from Fairfax County, Virginia. This is also the home of 1 in 8 Virginians, but it is also the home of Yong Ki Kwon, a 29-year-old graduate of Virginia Tech, who, like Cho, is also from South Korea. Kwon was convicted of terrorism, one of the so-called “paintball Jihadis,” who practiced massacres with paintball guns. (6)
(1) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819852/posts
(2) http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/
(3) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819826/posts
(4) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819689/posts
(5) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1819044/posts
(6) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819029/posts
Did I miss Osama’s fatwa against football?
That’s just weak. Show me where in his rantings he gave praise to Allah, and I’ll be convinced. But Islam is not at the root of every bad thing that happens in the world. Come on.
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You forgot a “tortured logic alert”
"Turn me on deadman."
"The walrus was Paul."
"I buried Paul"
It is almost a certainty that the FBI will spend months, if not years, looking at Cho's background, AND ALL OF THESE LINKS (valid or not), to learn from this horrific tragedy.
I find it interesting that there ARE some links, however tenuous, to Islam. At a minimum, he shares some of the same characteristics as the Islamonutjobs who blow people up. I hope these angles are explored.
the bogeyman has converted to Islam
Yeah, a lot of similarities if you really reach. There is NO evidence he has ANY affiliation with terrorists or with Islam. None. He is just a nut who went off.
FWIW, I do not believe Cho is a moslem or even a moslem wannabe, but I do think it's likely that jihadist imagery and words will be inspiration for more and more mentally ill people in the foreseeable future.
“Until someone has even a smidgen on the sis, it seems really sick to take her employment as some sign of her psycho brother’s motivation.”
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I think there might be a relationship between his sister’s high achievement and this monster’s frame of mind.
She worked for the US gov’t. He was an English major where, no doubt, he was subjected to constant liberal rantings about the failure of Bush administration policies.
She, as you noted, is probably a high achiever. High achievement, particularly monetary, is abhorred by the literati which populate this country’s liberal arts programs.
He was a senior. Was he going to graduate this year? (Based on my scanning of some of his writings, probably not.) Might his parents been questioning his plans for the future? “Look how well your Sister has done! Don’t you you want to do something with your life?”
Along with all the other things this guy had wrong with him, he was bucking up against the end of a four year college career which meant he was probably going to have all financial support pulled. He had NOTHING to show for it. End of the line.
Probably related to the fact that initially the police were looking for a white man with greasy hair driving a pickup truck. We look for the groups we consider suspicious.
Hang in there dangus! There is nothing wrong with digging in a suspicious spot for clues - especially when the mainstream media and government have such a well established record of lying, slanting and covering the truth (The Oklahoma City bombing, the Jose Padilla case and a few airliner crashes in New York come to mind). It is very difficult searching for truth in a politically corrected world.
<< all you’re left with was that he was...
CRIMINALLY INSANE. >>
I know what you’re saying, but I suggest we be hesitant to use the term “insane” or “criminally insane” in applying to this a-hole.
Technically, insane under the criminal law means, basically, that he couldn’t comprehend that it was wrong to kill his victims (or that his illness made it impossible for him not to shoot his victims).
If Cho were in fact insane as a matter of criminal law, we could not treat him as guilty of having committed a crime, and if he were still alive, he would instead be sent to a mental hospital and then released when his doctors think he has recovered from his mental illness.
I know it’s tempting to say that “anyone who does this kind of crime must be insane,” and that seems like just common sense, but we must be careful in using this terminology because it plays into the hands of liberals who try to excuse more and more criminal acts as just being from mental illness.
The guy was evil, and he had clinical mental problems, but I don’t think we should say he was criminally insane.
God knows this person had clear and explicit reasons (for the shootings), but did not disclose them, and I will not. All will see in the coming days, God willing.
His tapes demonstrate that he was not criminally insane.
Why pile on Dangus? He is raising the possibility of a connection.
Richard Engel, Middle East bureau chief for NBC also sees it as more than a coincidence. And he has probably seen the entire video.
Islamofascism is rapidly becoming a harbor for any malcontent who feels oppressed by the real world.
WOW!
I’m convinced!
< /belly laugh>
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