Posted on 04/17/2007 12:10:12 PM PDT by MrCFdovnh
Virginia Killer's Violent Writings Play told of pedophilic stepfather, murder of 13-year-old boy
APRIL 17--The college student responsible for yesterday's Virginia Tech slaughter was referred last year to counseling after professors became concerned about the violent nature of his writings, as evidenced in a one-act play obtained by The Smoking Gun. The play by Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old English major, was submitted last year as part of a short story writing class. Entitled "Richard McBeef," Cho's bizarre play features a 13-year-old boy who accuses his stepfather of pedophilia and murdering his father.
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This scumbag had NOTHING good to say about 'the family' ...
The memorial service had a Muslim, whatever they're called ... say a prayer to Allah ... I wouldn't be surprised if ...
Naaahhhhhh ....
But maybe ....
And that black/blond lezzie poet got a S.O. after its rant.
PC Quota's gone wild
(Good thing that finally caught up with Joey)
Unfortunately the would NOT lock you up. Every mentally ill person has the RIGHT to commit heinous crimes like this - they can not be incarcerated until they do commit a crime.
This is a direct result of the liberal law revisions of the past that require the mentally ill to agree to treatment.
Persons can not be forced to take their medication, can not be confined unless they present an immediate danger to themselves or others. The mere suspicion that someone has stepped off the deep end is not enough.
It might be time to start reigning in this issue.
surprised he mention John Lennon & Marilyn Monroe - -
they’re from my era, figured a kid would barely know who they were, let alone connect them with a “government conspiracy”
There are Greek myths as strange as that.
You're right in saying he was one sick puppy. You're wrong in assuming his play in any way demonstrates that. Writers regularly go to places in their stories that have nothing to do with who they are or what they personally believe.
PS - I've published a short story about a deranged girl who goes on a killing rampage after years of sexual abuse. Guess what? I've never been abused and I've never had the urge to slaughter people.
If that is the best a 23 year old English major can do, perhaps his parents can get a partial refund from the English department.
Could this go to Breaking News? It’s pretty clear from this the guy was nutz. The world should know.
Gotta agree. It really is putrid.
I found this on another site. Very interesting.
AOL News has obtained two plays a classmate says were written by Cho Seung-Hui. Ian MacFarlane, the former classmate and current AOL employee, provided us with the plays. A note from Mr. MacFarlane and links to the works appear below.
What happened yesterday:
When I first heard about the multiple shootings at Virginia Tech yesterday, my first thought was about my friends, and my second thought was “I bet it was Seung Cho.”
Cho was in my playwriting class last fall, and nobody seemed to think much of him at first. He would sit by himself whenever possible, and didn’t like talking to anyone. I don’t think I’ve ever actually heard his voice before. He was just so quiet and kept to himself. Looking back, he fit the exact stereotype of what one would typically think of as a “school shooter” a loner, obsessed with violence, and serious personal problems. Some of us in class tried to talk to him to be nice and get him out of his shell, but he refused talking to anyone. It was like he didn’t want to be friends with anybody. One friend of mine tried to offer him some Halloween candy that she still had, but he slowly shook his head, refusing it. He just came to class every day and submitted his work on time, as I understand it.
A major part of the playwriting class was peer reviews. We would write one-act plays and submit them to an online repository called Blackboard for everyone in the class to read and comment about in class the next day. Typically, the students give their opinions about the plays and suggest ways to make it better, the professor gives his insights, then asks the author to comment about the play in class.
When we read Cho’s plays, it was like something out of a nightmare. The plays had really twisted, macabre violence that used weapons I wouldn’t have even thought of. Before Cho got to class that day, we students were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter. I was even thinking of scenarios of what I would do in case he did come in with a gun, I was that freaked out about him. When the students gave reviews of his play in class, we were very careful with our words in case he decided to snap. Even the professor didn’t pressure him to give closing comments.
After hearing about the mass shootings, I sent one of my friends a Facebook message asking him if he knew anything about Seung Cho and if he could have been involved. He replied: “dude that’s EXACTLY what I was thinking! No, I haven’t heard anything, but seriously, that was the first thing I thought when I heard he was Asian.”
While I “knew” Cho, I always wished there was something I could do for him, but I couldn’t think of anything. As far as notifying authorities, there isn’t (to my knowledge) any system set up that lets people say “Hey! This guy has some issues! Maybe you should look into this guy!” If there were, I definitely would have tried to get the kid some help. I think that could have had a good chance of averting yesterday’s tragedy more than anything.
While I was hesitant at first to release these plays (because I didn’t know if there are laws against it), I had to put myself in the shoes of the average person researching this situation. I’d want to know everything I could about the killer to figure out what could drive a person to do something like this and hopefully prevent it in the future. Also, I hope this might help people start caring about others more no matter how weird they might seem, because if this was some kind of cry for attention, then he should have gotten it a long time ago.
As far as the victims go, as I was heading to bed last night, I heard that my good friend Stack (Ryan Clark) was one of the first confirmed dead. I didn’t want to believe that I’d never get to talk to him again, and all I could think about was how much I could tell him how much his friendship meant to me. During my junior year, Ryan, another friend and I used to get breakfast on Tuesdays and Thursdays at Shultz Dining Hall, one of the cafeterias on campus, and it was always the highlight of my day. He could talk forever it seemed and always made us laugh. He was a good friend, not just to me, but to a lot of people, and I’ll miss him a lot.
A 23-year-old senior in the country since 1992--and still wrote such lines as "to get into mom's pant"--
Granted the family was too poor to buy Mom a full pair of pants, but Mom in this case is capitalized.
Fortunately the Virginia state legislature forbade firearms on campi.
And the tenured professors were "concerned".
Everything for the best in this best of all possible worlds.
Forget the violent and disturbing writings.
The story to me is that this terrible and sophmoric writing is being accepted at Vtech. Was it really required to let this no talent into the program while good American men and women were denied admission?
Should they have? (just kidding)
Um, the kid has some ISSUES...
On top of that, I can’t believe this could be turned in as COLLEGE LEVEL creative writing. I’d put him back in 8th grade. He was a junior in college?
Some schools will keep lousy students around, as long as the bills are paid. Especially state schools which are not extremely selective.
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Wow. I wonder what one does besides what they DID do, get him into forced counseling. Wonder how long he was made to attend the counseling. Maybe for people displaying this “future school shooter” personality they should be forced to attend 2x a week for the entire time they remain enrolled? Would that even help? Or should universities just ban anyone who is asocial and talks or writes of violence? Should there be a required “social IQ” along with other test scores to attend universities? Wonder how his MMPI scores would have looked.
I agree with you that whacked out writing itself means nothing conclusively at the end of the day. That’s why they call it creative writing. The irony is that the same sort of subject matter is found in Greek tragedy and Shakespeare, as others have also noted, if not the crudeness in the presentation.
In hindsight we can say it was an indicator of illness, but in and of itself it could just have been pretty horrid writing.
Expect this play to be performed in bohemian theaters in the future, attaining cult status.
You wrote:
You’re right in saying he was one sick puppy. You’re wrong in assuming his play in any way demonstrates that. Writers regularly go to places in their stories that have nothing to do with who they are or what they personally believe.
PS - I’ve published a short story about a deranged girl who goes on a killing rampage after years of sexual abuse. Guess what? I’ve never been abused and I’ve never had the urge to slaughter people.
Exactly - I remember in an English class we each had to write a play, and I wrote one about a poker game where a guy ended up shooting everyone.
That was about 20 years ago - and I've never owned a gun and never fired one (although I reserve the right...).
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