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Sources: Virginia Tech gunman left note
Chicago Tribune ^ | April 17, 2007 | Aamer Madhani

Posted on 04/17/2007 8:55:01 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

BLACKSBURG, Va. -- The suspected gunman in the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, Cho Seung-Hui, was a troubled 23-year-old senior from South Korea who investigators believe left an invective-filled note in his dorm room, sources say.

The note included a rambling list of grievances and ended with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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KEYWORDS: antidepressant; antidepressants; democratunderground; du; duer; dummy; ismailax; shooter; vatech; virginiatech; vtech
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Folks, I am not kidding!! The cover-up of this is beginning. We need to drag all this away from the memory hole and archive it. They’ve tried to explain all of this away using a number of different stories that didn’t stick, but there is a possible bunny trail I think in these blog sites about “Ismail Ax”. That name is being redacted from the record.

“Ismail Ax” is radioactive.

You guys ran Rathergate to ground, let’s lock this one up, too.


341 posted on 04/17/2007 12:07:31 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: meg88

You said — “Both Jewish and Islamic traditions consider Ishmael as the ancestor of Arab people”

The whole Ishmael and Isaac thing is very interesting and fundamental as far as the Bible versus the Koran is concerned.

BUT, in having to do with yesterday’s shooting — it’s entirely speculative and actually doesn’t even represent the *right spelling* as far as the article has given it to us.

I think people are jumping on something that has not been established at all. We’ll have to wait until the note is released and we see what it actually says in context.

Regards,
Star Traveler


342 posted on 04/17/2007 12:10:29 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Jaysun

You asked — “What in the hell does “Ismail Ax” mean?”

Someone else posted that this had something to do with a physics formula. And the wording is exact. So, that’s all I know...

Regards,
Star Traveler


343 posted on 04/17/2007 12:11:39 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: 3AngelaD

I just heard on Christian news that the shooter’s fingerprints do not match those of any students.


344 posted on 04/17/2007 12:13:56 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: DogBarkTree

You said — “Just another jilted lover lone nut.”

And that’s exactly what it appears to be panning out to be. It’s way too speculative at this time to pin that down, but all the evidence is *definitely* leaning that way.

I would predict that — when all is said and done — this is what it will turn out to be.

And don’t worry, I’m not clairvoyant — so I don’t have an inside track to the future... :-)

Regards,
Star Traveler


345 posted on 04/17/2007 12:14:23 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: JohnnyM

Besides the sick content of his story, he can’t spell, he has poor grammar, and has disjointed logic. Not what I would call English major material.


346 posted on 04/17/2007 12:15:06 PM PDT by debg
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To: penowa

You said — “According to recent FNC report, he set a couple of fires in his dorm room recently and he was depressed.”

Yep, more and more it’s turning out that he was a disturbed individual. It also seems that the police are thinking that he may have had something to do with the recent bomb threats and they are intently looking into that.

If we came across someone like that, in our personal lives, we would *know* that such a person was mentally disturbed — which is probably why his girlfriend left him — which also probably sent him off on the deep end.

Regards,
Star Traveler


347 posted on 04/17/2007 12:16:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: JohnnyM

Wow, that was unbelievably awful.


348 posted on 04/17/2007 12:16:52 PM PDT by Live and let live conservative ($)
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To: Hildy

You said — “Please...why makes this worse than it is. He was a mixed up, lonely disturbed kid. I will say, though, that the Korean culture is a very tough one for men. I’d like to know what his grades have been as well.”

Yep, that’s right. People are grasping at straws here — the “Islamic straws” no less...

Regards,
Star Traveler


349 posted on 04/17/2007 12:18:29 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Moose4

You said — “Stalking women, set a fire in his dorm room, wrote a screed and signed it “Ismail Ax”...I’m thinking “nutburger” before I’m thinking ROP on this one.”

Nutburger gets my vote on this one...

Regards,
Star Traveler


350 posted on 04/17/2007 12:19:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Ishmael = Jewish Spelling

Ismail = Arab spelling

Similar to:

Abraham = Jewish Spelling
Ibrahim = Arab Spelling


351 posted on 04/17/2007 12:20:49 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: WashingtonStateRepublican
Here, give this search a try, you should end up with close to 200 results.

None of which are remotely interesting.

352 posted on 04/17/2007 12:22:32 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Wormwood
Creation Date: 17-apr-2007

I guess they have trolls at GoDaddy.com, too.

353 posted on 04/17/2007 12:26:07 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Ellesu
a writing sample by shooter

Incoherent hatred spewing out as words...

354 posted on 04/17/2007 12:26:48 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: auto power

No that was Queequeg.


355 posted on 04/17/2007 12:27:00 PM PDT by Bouchart ("I was saying boo-urns...")
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To: a_screen_name

Thanks


356 posted on 04/17/2007 12:27:56 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: Bluebird Singing

A friend of ours went berzerk going cold turkey off Effexor.
He ended up killing himself.
______________________________________________________
we also know of someone who killed themselves going off effexor.
This is why I have studied these drugs.

Now, they do work for some, but not all.

If you read about how many suicides and killings are done by people who are on these drugs, some who have just had increased doses of these drugs or who as you say go berzerk when getting off them the wrong way, it is astonishing, the numbers.

Have read where people have killed themselves in clinical trials and it is hushed up by the drug companies.
It is very sad.

Thses chemicals send the wrong signal to the brain in some people and should be monitored.

All I am saying is that this if this killer was on a mind altering drug, like prozac,it should be investigated and not pushed to the side as it has been in so many of these killings.


357 posted on 04/17/2007 12:28:09 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: Frank_Discussion

That exact same phrase (exact in the spelling) was also found by another poster on Free Republic as part of a physics formula. So, it could also have something to do with physics.

At this point in time, “physics” is just as good a guess as “Islam”

Regards,
Star Traveler

P.S. — In any case, whether physics or not, he’s a nutball case and was whacked in the head. I mean, setting fire to your room twice? Calling in bomb threats, like the authorities are saying they think he did? That’s all nutball thinking...


358 posted on 04/17/2007 12:29:19 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Where is this “physics formula”? I would like to see it for myself.


359 posted on 04/17/2007 12:31:21 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Star Traveler
"which is probably why his girlfriend left him..."

Imaginary girlfriend or girl he stalked? Don't think he was "set off" by her imagined departure from the relationship. Sounds like he was over the edge already.

360 posted on 04/17/2007 12:31:24 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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