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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

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To: Jedidah

disarming them was the nutty idea.


3,561 posted on 04/16/2007 7:06:14 PM PDT by omega4179 (Each unskilled Immigrant costs 30,000 annually to taxpayers.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; RDTF; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1810409/posts?page=827#827

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1810409/posts?page=829#829


3,562 posted on 04/16/2007 7:06:34 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Dante3
Fortunately, in that case an off-duty Virginia deputy sheriff, got his gun from his vehicle, got the drop on the shooter, disarmed the shooter and then some fellow students restrained the shooter until authorities arrived.
3,563 posted on 04/16/2007 7:06:52 PM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

My point exactly


3,564 posted on 04/16/2007 7:06:54 PM PDT by motor_racer (Whatta you gonna do kid, shoot us all? No Ace, just you.)
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To: All; WVNan

Beautiful sentiment from the Edwards family. I love that old hymn

We are simply heartbroken by the deaths and injuries suffered at
Virginia Tech. We know what an unspeakable, life-changing moment
this is for these families and how, in this moment, it is hard to feel
anything but overwhelming grief, much less the love and support around
you. But the love and support is there. We pray that these families,
these students, and the entire Virginia Tech community know that they
are being embraced by a nation. There is a Methodist hymn that gave
us solace in such a moment as this, and we repeat its final verse here,
in hopes it will help these families, as it helped us:

In our end is our beginning; in our time, infinity;
In our doubt there is believing, in our life, eternity,
In our death, a resurrection; at the last, a victory,
Unrevealed until its season, something God alone can see.

Our dearest wish is that this day could start again, with the promise of
these young people alive. Knowing that cannot be, our prayer is for
God’s grace and whatever measure of peace can be reached on this
terrible day.

John and Elizabeth Edwards


3,565 posted on 04/16/2007 7:07:15 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: silentreignofheroes

Could there possibly be a softer target than a university?? You send the police to one side and then target the building on the other side and you are just murdering unarmed and unprotected kids. Guaranteed these kids had no military training to do maximum murder. This was planned for a long time and likely AQ.

Pray for W and Va Tech


3,566 posted on 04/16/2007 7:09:17 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: dawn53

There was a cell phone video that recorded the shots and it was from a “student” named Jamal Barghouti. At first, I thought he was the cornered perp. I’m fairly certain of the name.

F


3,567 posted on 04/16/2007 7:09:24 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad)
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To: DCBryan1

Thank you for serving in Iraq.

When you enter law school, work on your vocabulary. Stooping to petty name-calling is not worthy of someone with your credentials.

And you don’t need to alert me. I neither fear you nor consider you a troll, just an ill-informed Freeper.


3,568 posted on 04/16/2007 7:09:29 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: dawn53

anything is worth checking, but as a general matter, it’s worth as much as if an American named Johnson filmed a bombing in Israel and people started saying “Well, there’s a Johnson who was President, and a Johnson who was a famous basketball player, and a Johnson who said “verrry interesting . . . .”


3,569 posted on 04/16/2007 7:10:39 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: markedmannerf

It looks like he’s been on that site for years. Doesn’t seem like a Chinese national who has been here for 8 months. I doubt it is him...but who knows!


3,570 posted on 04/16/2007 7:10:41 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

No problem. I don’t know how to reply to mail messages or what they are, but I thank you for saying what you did. Today was incredibly interesting - reading posts on here - so many articulate, intelligent, thought-provoking posts.


3,571 posted on 04/16/2007 7:10:56 PM PDT by Twink
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To: doug from upland

Great one. Taking it to the college Wed.


3,572 posted on 04/16/2007 7:11:26 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Frank Sheed

The ability of FReepers to hunt down facts never ceases to amaze me :^)


3,573 posted on 04/16/2007 7:11:40 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: dragnet2
I doubt whether they ever do full background checks on student visa applicants (unless they come from Iran).

That is a little disturbing.

What type of visas were the 911 terrorist issued?


I've been through student visa process myself (I'm an Eastern European who used to study in US) and consular officials spend 2-5 minutes on each application. What they check is just the basic economic background. Whether the person has money to pay for studies, does not appear likely to stay in US illegally afterwards or does not have obvious red flags of some other type. They might also run some quick computerized checks against databases of known terrorists etc. behind the scenes but I doubt whether they do more.

Google says that after 9/11, they've added more background checks for citizens of most (or all) Muslim countries but if this person was from China, his experience was probably like mine.
3,574 posted on 04/16/2007 7:11:47 PM PDT by AdrianR
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To: Chickensoup
This is international. What is the big difference between broadcasting the cutting off of heads for the world to see and broadcasting the gunshots that killed and maimed numerous young students.

Because there's a 99.999% chance that he was doing what any other kid would do in the same situation with a cellphone capable of doing that would.

It doesn't send any signal back to his masters, whomever you might think that would be.

Where is the evidence of a Chinese/Palestinian terrorist group? Or that either group would gain by shooting up an American university?

This kind of speculation drives me nuts.

3,575 posted on 04/16/2007 7:11:50 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: ExtremeUnction

How in the h-ll could they or should they have known he was going to show up in classrooms 2 hrs later and execute people. Please give it a rest.


3,576 posted on 04/16/2007 7:12:13 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: N8VTXNinWV

Me too. Have tried to stay glued to the news. Have close ties to VT. Sister taught at Radford years past.


3,577 posted on 04/16/2007 7:12:13 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: bray

I just got confirmation that the late Ryan Clark was one of our members. Pray for the members of the Circle K club at Virginia Tech


3,578 posted on 04/16/2007 7:12:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Jedidah

May I suggest going back a couple thousand post before you get flamed.

Both points of view have been done to death on this thread.

Not sure how old you are but there was a time when “nutty” students and teachers would bring their guns to class.

Are you admitting todays college students have devolved so much into immaturity and ignorance that high school students years ago far surpass them in manners and intelligence?


3,579 posted on 04/16/2007 7:12:48 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: bnelson44

He was born in 1984 according to his blog...but this guy does not meet the description we have at this point (been here 8 months on student visa...)


3,580 posted on 04/16/2007 7:13:17 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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