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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: relee
True, he was African. I should have said foreign. Last I heard he pled temporary insanity or something like it.
3,541 posted on 04/16/2007 6:57:21 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: AppyPappy

You have our prayers of comfort and strength. Let them know the entire Country is praying for them and you.

Pray for W and Va Tech


3,542 posted on 04/16/2007 6:58:59 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: WVNan
Amen Nan! We have A LOT of Greenbrier Countians down at VT. I was worried sick for these kids!
3,543 posted on 04/16/2007 6:59:38 PM PDT by N8VTXNinWV (WVU 'eer)
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To: bray

It is very possible this shooting was “the first tower”.


3,544 posted on 04/16/2007 7:00:21 PM PDT by wrench
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To: jennyjenny

A military base vs. a college campus? Really?

A military base or South-Central Alabama,,yes Really,,,!


3,545 posted on 04/16/2007 7:00:32 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: motor_racer

Uhm, most of the people keeping you and I safe everynight (the military) are 18-25 year olds. Average age in WWII was around 18-19 I believe. Acting as if a 22 year old is a child is ridiculous and worse the low expectation signals 22 year olds that it is ok to act like one.


3,546 posted on 04/16/2007 7:01:40 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: jennyjenny
Not a terribly good comparison but I’ve been on bases here and there, and it’s amazing that they give a 22 yr old an armored vehicle with an M60 and an M2, with an M16 with M203 attached, and a sidearm. I’m frequently surrounded by 18 to 22 yr olds with enough firepower to level a city block.

As for concealed carry in VA, isn’t the law 21 and over, just like outside the campus? That would be grad students and some seniors, but not freshmen.

3,547 posted on 04/16/2007 7:02:09 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Howlin
I thought that the police spokesperson WAS in shock. His eyes kept blinking - and he really did seem in total shock. Then he improved. He never raised his voice. Never smiled. Did a good job of answering questions, I thought. The President also impressed me as being a very calming influence in the situation - but don't know anything about him.

Have 2 coworkers who had daughters at VA Tech but both are safe...and both parents very relieved....but ZERO condemnation of Va Tech officials in today's events. (was talking to them on IM today while it was happening - and later).

3,548 posted on 04/16/2007 7:02:15 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Jedidah
There would be more than 32 dead tonight if your nutty idea were enacted.

You have got to be kidding me?! Are you saying that there would be more people killed if there was one law-abiding, willing, responsible 21 year old student with a CCW that could have stopped this thing?

You are the one with limited intelligence. A gun in the hands of a law abiding citizen, practicing his/her God-given right to self defense could have possible stopped this attack, or at least mitigated the carnage.

TROLL ALERT!

3,549 posted on 04/16/2007 7:02:15 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: Twink

I agree with you... what has happened to fight back? My grandmother was 70+ when this guy tried to snatch her purse. She sucker punched him and laid him out cold, he was still out cold when the police arrived!

I’m not even saying to be armed... just fight back. If a few of those students had thrown a desk or two or rushed him, maybe the results would have been a little different. I know I sit here safe and sound in my own home, but I’d like to think I’d be a bit more of a fighter.


3,550 posted on 04/16/2007 7:02:39 PM PDT by myrabach
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To: dragnet2
Indeed, where are the witnesses? Lots of people saw the shooter(s) that are still very alive.

Where is Mike Nifong when we need him? He would have these kids interviewed in less than a year and a half!

3,551 posted on 04/16/2007 7:03:13 PM PDT by Sender ("She is the friendly face of America; where Condi frowns, Nancy smiles." (Syria))
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I didn’t see it. I hope there’s a re-run.


3,552 posted on 04/16/2007 7:03:15 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Jedidah
But students need to be students. A gun in every backpack is a nutty idea.

Complete strawman. No one is seriously suggesting arming "every student" or putting "a gun in every backpack." The legal right to concealed carry should merely be extended to campus. Many people won't carry regardless, and no one is suggested forcing everyone to carry. Despite many memes to the contrary, there's really no record of massive friendly crossfire incidents even in areas with high concealed carry rates.

And it's worth noting VA Tech has ACTIVELY worked against concealed carry on their campus. And hey, you HAD your way on VA Tech's campus. Right as ready, no concealed carry and a basically complete gun ban, and you get 32 murdered.

Can you imagine thousands weapons being fired in panic?

Complete fantasy. I'll tell you something that's not fantasy though - 32 murdered by firearms in a highly gun-controlled environment.
3,553 posted on 04/16/2007 7:04:09 PM PDT by mjwise
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To: Jedidah
Oh, as per my limited vocabulary? LOL....

I have two AAs, 3 BAs, a MA in History, and working on my MBA. I am going to Law School when I return from Iraq defending your right to say stupid things like "more guns = more crime"....

Idiot Troll Alert!

3,554 posted on 04/16/2007 7:04:31 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: WVNan

I walked on campus while my son was at Scouts tonight. It was so empty. It was like a reverent silence. God informed me during the walk that evil exists in this world but not in the next. I’m not even sure I know what that means.

We had a beautiful sunset tonight. One of the best I have seen. There is light that permeates the darkness. Maybe we got a glimpse of Heaven to remind us of our true home.

One of my Emmaus buddies called. We held the Walk this past weekend(I was a table leader) and some of us work on campus. Everyone is fine. It was good to hear from him after spending the weekend with him. I think we all wanted to just run back to the camp and stay.


3,555 posted on 04/16/2007 7:04:45 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: markedmannerf

Whoa, that is some firepower.


3,556 posted on 04/16/2007 7:04:48 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: bray

Shanghai is a Sister City (Sister Cities International) of Winston-Salem, NC, and also, San Francisco.


3,557 posted on 04/16/2007 7:04:52 PM PDT by Alia
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To: doug from upland

STOPPING HARXIST SHOULD BE A FREEPER 24/7 MANHATTAN PROJECT.

AMEN!


3,558 posted on 04/16/2007 7:05:20 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Chickensoup

I’ve been inquiring as to his last name. I’m hoping somebody remembers it. Wolf Blitzer said he was from a well know Palestinian family.

I thought they said his last name was Barghouti. If so, there’s a Barghouti that was head of Fatah, and there’s a Barghouti that was a politician.


3,559 posted on 04/16/2007 7:05:39 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: markedmannerf

Could be him. Don’t know.

Hearing possibly the suspect was connected to a website called “facebook”, with links to other sites.


3,560 posted on 04/16/2007 7:06:11 PM PDT by dragnet2
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