Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall
(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...
‘I don’t think my teacher got out’
Engineering student says lecture turned to frantic rush to flee gunshots.....
Librescu, a professor of engineering science and mechanics who was educated in Romania and is a U.S. citizen, could not be reached. As of 4 p.m., his wife had not been able to find him.
“I am looking also. I know that he was shot but I cannot find him,” she said in a panic. “How is it possible that a wife cannot know?”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-students0416,0,803874.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines
Prayers for you, Mrs. Librescu
I understand he shot himself in the back of the head, which would still disfigure him, however there had to be dozens of witnesses prior to him killing himself.
This would seem to suggest he was not known to those on the campus, since no ID has been leaked or reported yet. My thoughts anyway.
It's seems a stretch to believe this was a student or was somehow connected to the campus, yet no one has reported who this individual might have been.
I am very interested on who the suspect is.
I'll donate a $100.00 today if you can implement an "ignore" button. I can then change my screename/handle to (Most ignored Freeper;)
Great idea AnnaZ.
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I'll match the offer.
Anyone else?
LOL..
Thank you SeaBiscuit. As a VT alum, I share your sentiments and pray for strength for the families whose sons and daughters were murdered today.
Hokie Bird
Well, not physically every building locked down...but if you put up barricades at the entrances to the parking lots, with parking officers with bullhorns, etc. Plus make an announcement to the local media...
Most T/A’s have their students email addresses as assignments are now handed in that way. Or the University has a master email list as part of the student directory.
Sincerely,
Mary Carpenter"
Ditto the sentiment!
One thing I don't get, Texas, in light of what occurred today..."Guns on campus with a bunch of drunk students?"...how many of the folks killed today do you suppose were drunk? I'm betting none of 'em, but they sure are dead. Maybe one of their fellow students, had they been armed and sober, could have taken the POS shooter out and saved a few lives.
For that to have happened, I guess guns would have to be allowed on campus.
First you ask if I'm mad because I'm proposing that some students/faculty should have the RIGHT to be armed and then you propose the same thing. Not sure what your point of calling me mad is.
I don't know, but I can tell you I've heard this reported through the media now 3 times in the past 20 minutes.
I am very much pro-gun. I really don’t think there should be limits on ownership of any kind at federal or state level.
I am also 1 who “bemoans the students” (and caught hell for that, too).
You’re correct to be concerned about the day-to-day violence. The serial nuts are rarities that almost never happen. More worrisome is the idiocy and drunkenness of “students” (oh my, I’m labeling them all again).
And as I indicated many timesr, I think the situation should be considered about what kind of people you’re dealing with, what the environment is, and so on. I think it’s plausible to disallow students weapons. I’m not sold on it, but it’s my tendency right now. OTOH, it may be infeasible to enforce it and not worthwhile.
Meantime, we still can’t avoid the fact that the campus can do as it wants, as it is sovereign vs. the students. If college admin. wants to ban weapons, it’s not a “legal” matter anyway, because it is their property to use as they wish.
I asked my friend today if she’d heard any more news about the incident and she said not really. Are they sweeping it under the rug? ‘nothing happens here’?
Rumor from what source?
...and as to those screaming in the MSM and elsewhere about how terrible guns are (and will be doing so for the next several weeks and months)...the shooter broke all of their gun laws today and killed innocents. Gun laws do not work...they contribute exponentially to the problem.
What this guy needed, IMHO, very quickly...the sooner the better, was hot lead firing back in his direction. People who are dodging bullets very quickly become less accurate and less efficient killers themselves. More people, common citizens need to be armed, plain and simple so they can take responsibility for their own safety.
That's the truth of this situation and is something our founding fathers recognized and clearly articulated in our constitution (despite all the liberal wordsmithing of late) well over 200 years ago.
Student at VT
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS:
I SAID NOTHING ABOUT GUN “LAWS”. I NEVER PROPOSE “GUN LAWS”.
I SAID PERHAPS A BAN ON THE *CAMPUS* WOULD BE APPROPRIATE (probably already exists).
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH “LEGAL LAWS”. IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT THE COLLEGE WANTS TO DO WITH ITS PROPERTY.
Thanks
The police responded to the first shooting, determining, I assume from interviews at the scene, that it was a domestic dispute. Apparently they didn't have any ID on the killer, and they assumed he was gone from campus. There was no indication that this person was going to go on a shooting rampage on campus.
The administration DID contact students through their RA's by telephone, and began a telephone tree to contact others. They also sent a blast e-mail to all students in the system, after having done the calling. The President said that there were sirens going off on campus as well. As the college President pointed out, many students had already left their dorm rooms for their first class, and by the time the major killing took place, some of those students may not have even known about the situation.
The gunman hadn't been killing students continually for two hours. If it was one gunman, he shot two earlier in the day, then either hid out on campus, or went back to wherever he lived to re-arm and come back. On a campus as large as VT, he probably could have gotten on campus from just about anywhere, even in a lockdown situation. I doubt the place is fenced in and gated, so folks come and go all the time. From what I've been able to gather, the second wave of shooting didn't last that long, so the administration would not have had time to react to that one, either.
But I can well imagine a party with a bunch of out of control drunk students and a couple of guns. ugh
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