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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: bray

I work at a University,,we have been locked down twice in the last few years. The last lockdown was when a person was reported on campus to be carrying a weapon and threatening people. We were locked down for a couple of hours. They have mass calling, emals to critical people who go lock the doors.

I wonder why there wasn’t a lockdown when they knew the perp was loose. Seemed indicated to me. But this is a small school, no history of this.


2,401 posted on 04/16/2007 2:50:24 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: LexHoskin

When I went to bed this morning it was reported One dead. Now 32. Oh dear Lord. Prayers for all involved.


2,402 posted on 04/16/2007 2:50:28 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (You "abort" bad missile launches and carrier landings. Not babies.)
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To: Snake65

My guess is the weapons stash was back at his apartment off campus. (which would account for the delay/hideout before his first class of the day)


2,403 posted on 04/16/2007 2:50:39 PM PDT by meg88
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To: toast

If hes dead that could be a pic of an innocent asian man, or the shooter was shot and they let him bleed out right there. Not enough info, as usual from this PD.


2,404 posted on 04/16/2007 2:50:57 PM PDT by omega4179 (Each unskilled Immigrant costs 30,000 annually to taxpayers.)
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To: SuziQ

“Good grief! A college campus is NOT a high school, with one large contained space. I went to a college with half the number of students, and there were buildings spread out over about a square mile area. How would you suggest locking down that large a space?”

Many years ago, a guy invented a way to talk over a copper wire. It was called the telephone! There have been several other inventions in which humans communicate over long distances as well. I have attended a few colleges and I do not recall a single building that did not have an office with a telephone in it. Possibly VT people should be retrained in the use of the telephone!


2,405 posted on 04/16/2007 2:51:01 PM PDT by Plateau
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To: toldyou

I noticed the same thing. Unbelievable.


2,406 posted on 04/16/2007 2:51:10 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Cyclopean Squid
So how, then, to succeed in defending against a rogue government? It doesn’t seem very likely given those limitations.

The same way we defeated the British the first time.

Guerilla warfare and small arms.

But you know that already.

2,407 posted on 04/16/2007 2:51:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Can’t the liberals start their own countries somewhere, and then surrender?)
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To: bray

Agreed! Lessons can be learned but how does one ever plan for something like this? These people cannot be phsycic and all knowing .... and I’d guess they are in shock right now as well. The blame game seems idiotic ... these men and women in local law enforcement and University Administration did not aid in any of this ... they just never saw it coming ... any in reality, how could they? We do need to learn why this happened, esp on the remote possibility that this was foreign terrorism. We can also learn from it .... but the sole responsibility is with the person(s) that carried this out.


2,408 posted on 04/16/2007 2:51:36 PM PDT by Mac94
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To: bray
Who wears a purple hat. Oh, I dunno....maybe a Virginia Tech student? Seeing as how the school colors are orange and maroon. The student being interviewd said maroon, not purple
2,409 posted on 04/16/2007 2:51:41 PM PDT by Eroteme
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To: ArmstedFragg

the point is - you have 9 locations where you tell people to turn back, they don’t enter the campus at all.

what mass shootings are conducted in parking lots? the gunmen would have to run to the parking lot to start shooting people, where 200 people in cars could run him over.


2,410 posted on 04/16/2007 2:52:13 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: CedarDave
...Flashback to Jan 2006...

Gun bill gets shot down by panel

HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn’t get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill’s defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. “I’m sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly’s actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”

link

2,411 posted on 04/16/2007 2:52:15 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: retrokitten

Or a Muslem under a Kufi....


2,412 posted on 04/16/2007 2:52:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: retrokitten

A little gallows humor.

Pray for W and Va Tech


2,413 posted on 04/16/2007 2:52:20 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I saw this interview on Fox. The former FBI agent was a parent of a student, and I found her behaviour HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE in this situation. If she was a former FBI agent, she got her face on FNC by about 2:00 this afternoon. She said that she told her own daughter to consider herself locked down, after the first shooting this morning, and she said that she was just sorry that all the students there couldn't have the benefit of her expertise. Extremely critical of the Administration right out of the box. She came off to me as a Valarie Plame type

Totally agreed. She was a condescending piece of work.

2,414 posted on 04/16/2007 2:52:35 PM PDT by cammie
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To: longtermmemmory
Indonesia has the largest Muslim population in the world.

That said, the ROP does come to mind every time I hear about something like this happening these days. Time will tell, however, if the shooter is a Muslim the press will not make much mention of that fact as they did with the Utah shooter.

2,415 posted on 04/16/2007 2:52:45 PM PDT by eureka! (The 'rats have made their choice in the WOT and honest history will not be kind...)
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To: tcrlaf
"Wolf said he was from a “Well-Known Middle-Eastern Family...

CNN with the scoop?

2,416 posted on 04/16/2007 2:52:50 PM PDT by meg88
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I saw this interview on Fox. The former FBI agent was a parent of a student, and I found her behaviour HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE in this situation. If she was a former FBI agent, she got her face on FNC by about 2:00 this afternoon. She said that she told her own daughter to consider herself locked down, after the first shooting this morning, and she said that she was just sorry that all the students there couldn't have the benefit of her expertise. Extremely critical of the Administration right out of the box. She came off to me as a Valarie Plame type

Totally agreed. She was a condescending piece of work.

2,417 posted on 04/16/2007 2:52:56 PM PDT by cammie
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To: Dante3

lesson number one here: Unarmed citizens are dead citizens.

But CNN and the BBC AND FNC will only put a mic before Sarah Brady and edit the NRA bit as “defensive reactionary”.


2,418 posted on 04/16/2007 2:53:06 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mad-Margaret
For gosh sakes, those two callers were eyewitnesses and law enforcement hasn’t spoken to them?

Maybe because they were in the hospital and the police were letting them be treated for their injuries first. As I mentioned before, eyewitnesses are sometimes wrong. Their reports would have to be mixed with all the other information to get the full picture.

2,419 posted on 04/16/2007 2:53:07 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Lazamataz
Hey, did the guy really have a bullet-proof vest on? I thought I read up thread that he had on a vest with clips attached, but FOX made it a bullet proof vest.

Now expert on Fox is acting like this is fact.

2,420 posted on 04/16/2007 2:53:39 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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