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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: milford421

The name was “Mohammad Jabiz” ...

It’s posted at around 400 or so...


2,321 posted on 04/16/2007 2:38:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: halfright
Glad that he is safe, thank you for sharing that information.
2,322 posted on 04/16/2007 2:38:29 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Moose4

well, maybe someone can post a map of the school property.


2,323 posted on 04/16/2007 2:38:38 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: LexHoskin
MSNBC Newsreaderette just said that the shooter had not been identified because he had no cellphone, no identification, and he shot himself in the face to disfigure himself and make identification difficult.

[That was the first I had heard of him shooting himself in the face do make identification more difficult.]
2,324 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:00 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Cyclopean Squid

Not really. He was incredibly wrong.

But he sure managed to prove to 30,000,000+ dead victims that he had enough power to kill them.

God’s Word will prove to be the ultimate power.

But guns are a good insurance for liberty. Perhaps you need to add a lot of the Founding Fathers’ statements about guns to your reading. Some are on this thread.


2,325 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:03 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Snoopers-868th
Fox T.V. — Shooter—Young Asian Male—Hummmm!

What are you implying? Apparently you haven't set foot on most any engineering university in the U.S. They have many foreign students.

2,326 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:17 PM PDT by NewsJunqui
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To: jveritas

I agree! You have a shooting on campus and don’t know where the shooter is, but allow kids to come on the campus and not shut down the campus with cops at every corner of the campus turning the kids away, and within a couple of hours 32 people are slaughtered!

Sorry, someone is going to pay for this big time! I cannot believe how careless and rediculous!


2,327 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:18 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!)
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To: Cyclopean Squid
Incidentally, in order to properly maintain their sovereignty, should the People through militias be able to have tanks and aircraft? Surface to Air Missiles? Grenades? Because in order to properly challenge governmental authority they would need it.

Yes they should and yes they did have the equivalents before 1934.

2,328 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:35 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: silentknight
Since you quoted me I assume you READ somewhere in there that I think they responded appropriately? I said they were not responsible for the shootings. Can YOU predict the behavior of your next door neighbor? Can you predict the behavior or 26 thousand people? Only in GENERAL can you do that, and in GENERAL, they did all the correct things.
Did they notify the students? Yes they did.
But THINK man, they had to get to the first scene, interview shocked witnesses, follow up on those leads, the information they had led them to believe that it was an isolated incident, they treated it as such. They went about looking for the individual. Now if NOTHING further had happened, and they shut down the campus, people would have been yelling about how they shut down the campus for an isolated incident. They have stated they had no reason to believe that anything further would occur. THAT piece of information lay in the CHOICE of the shooter, this all assuming that the two incidents are directly related which they have NOT yet disclosed, if indeed they even know yet.
Now take into consideration, had they shut down the campus, it would have taken HOURS to clear it of the people already there and in transit. this STILL would have left hundreds if not thousands of people still in the vicinity, because the lock down would have simply stoppered people where they were, and its CLEAR that the gunman was among them already. NOTHING would have been prevented by locking down the campus. People would STILL have died.

Ultimately the SHOOTER is responsible for his choices and actions. EVERYTHING else is REACTIONARY, and that takes TIME, it takes TIME to move that many people to action and you can NOT make choices as to whom or where to move those people when you have a virtual if not COMPLETE lack of information. You may as well have locked down the whole city. It would have done about as much good.

2,329 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:44 PM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Bo Dietl said “they dropped the ball.” (campus admin) owned by State of Virginia, no guns. ENORMOUS LAWSUIT per J. Napilatano cuz the second wave was not prevented.


2,330 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:46 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: cammie

Thanks for that correction.


2,331 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:59 PM PDT by anglian
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To: silentknight

Sorry Jamal there is no Palestine!!


2,332 posted on 04/16/2007 2:40:40 PM PDT by pitinkie (revenge will be sweet)
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To: tcrlaf

Asian dude.

2,333 posted on 04/16/2007 2:40:41 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: floriduh voter

Bo has a security company. So he MIGHT happen to have other motives for his reaction.


2,334 posted on 04/16/2007 2:40:59 PM PDT by JFC
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To: TomGuy

I saw that information about being shot in the face, not sure where I saw it. Either on Fox or here.


2,335 posted on 04/16/2007 2:41:06 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Cyclopean Squid

I suspect a number of FREEPERS have a number of different labels that we feel would apply.


2,336 posted on 04/16/2007 2:41:13 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: dawn53
I would scrub the background of the Middle Eastern kid who shot the video on his cellphone.

Profiling? NUTS!

2,337 posted on 04/16/2007 2:41:20 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: BurbankKarl

That’s a reporter not the perp.


2,338 posted on 04/16/2007 2:41:26 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: smartymarty

Young asian w/purple hat. Who wears a purple hat. Maybe it was a turban or something? This is looking like a Mooselip. Wonder if there were any Freepers in there that can give us a discription?

We know he wasn’t White by the silence.

Pray for W and Va Tech


2,339 posted on 04/16/2007 2:41:37 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: EDINVA

how many entrances are there off the main highways?


2,340 posted on 04/16/2007 2:41:43 PM PDT by oceanview
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