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IntellectualConservative.com ^ | March 31, 2007 | George Shadroui

Posted on 03/31/2007 2:27:40 PM PDT by Josh Painter

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To: appleharvey

appleharvey wrote: "From what I've read, Fred Thompson has a rating of 86% fom the ACU during his career in the Senate. Not too shabby if you ask me. I say go for it Fred!"

An 86% ADU rating indicates a solid conservative, but not so far to the right to be considered a bomb thrower, like Santorum.

Fred has that rare Reaganesque ability to appeal to independents, the more thoughtful Democrats and moderates living in swing states.


21 posted on 03/31/2007 4:00:30 PM PDT by Josh Painter (Draft Fred Thompson: the grassroots "surge that will transform the Republican race." - The Hill)
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To: Sturm Ruger

As a strong fiscal conservative, I’ve long awaited a comprehensive analysis that sizes up the ‘08 field on both taxes AND spending. Thanks to the National Taxpayers Union, we now have some idea of where the candidates on both sides of the aisle stand on economic growth and size-and-scope of government issues. NTU has released a nifty scorecard that ranks all of the presidential contenders with legislative records on these issues, meaning that, unfortunately, we don’t get to see where candidates with only executive experience fit into the overall snapshot. Still, the results are enlightening, and in some cases, a bit surprising.

Each year, NTU assigns a grade to each Member of Congress w/r/t his or her votes on legislation related to taxes, debt, regulation, and spending. The NTU looks both at the percentage of the time the legislator voted for the taxpayer, and at the importance of each of those votes, weighing each vote accordingly. This prevents, for example, a congresscritter voting in favor of several small tax credits but against a huge tax cut from earning a higher score than a legislator who did the opposite, thus presenting a more accurate picture of where the candidates stand on fiscal issues than would a raw vote count. According to NTU, here are the ‘08 candidates’ most recent grades:

NTU Congressional Rating (most recent legislative year)

John McCain: A (88%)
Ron Paul: A (84%)
Sam Brownback: A (84%)
Newt Gingrich: A (79%)
Tom Tancredo: A (76%)
Fred Thompson: A (73%)
Chuck Hagel: B+ (82%)
Duncan Hunter: B (62%)
Bill Richardson: F (33%)
John Edwards: F (22%)
Dennis Kucinich: F (22%)
Hillary Clinton: F (17%)
Barack Obama: F (16%)
Joe Biden: F (11%)
Chris Dodd: F (10%)

Two things. First, this explains why Duncan Hunter isn’t gaining any traction; his record on fiscal issues is that of something other than a conservative. Secondly, Bill Richardson appears to be the most fiscally conservative Democrat in the field, though that’s not saying much. In order to avoid making inferences based on what may be an anomalous year on the part of some candidates, let’s now take a look at the percentage of legislative years during which each candidate received an “A” grade from the NTU:

Percent of “A” Grades

Ron Paul: 100%
Tom Tancredo: 100%
Fred Thompson: 88%
John McCain: 67%
Newt Gingrich: 57%
Sam Brownback: 50%
Chuck Hagel: 30%
Duncan Hunter: 6%
All Democrats: 0%

McCain is likely hurt by his opposition to the Bush tax cuts earlier in the decade. Thompson, interestingly, received an A from the NTU almost every year he was in the Senate, bested only by Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo. And, finally, NTU has determined just how much of your money each of these candidates would like to spend. By parsing the legislative agenda of each of the ‘08 candidates, and by subtracting the amount each candidate’s agenda would cut government from the amount each agenda would increase the cost of government, NTU has revealed just which of our ‘08 candidates truly are committed to small government. The results are a bit surprising:

Net cost of legislative agenda for most recent legislative year

Bill Richardson: -$1.6 billion
Fred Thompson: $3.1 billion
Newt Gingrich: $4.5 billion
Barack Obama: $11.7 billion
Tom Tancredo: $13.7 billion
Duncan Hunter: $15.8 billion
Sam Brownback: $19 billion
Ron Paul: $34 billion
John McCain: $36.9 billion
Chuck Hagel: $86.7 billion
Joe Biden: $90 billion
John Edwards: $103.5 billion
Chris Dodd: $224 billion
Hillary Clinton: $378.2 billion
Dennis Kucinich: $1.87 trillion

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson’s legislative agenda would actually have led to net cuts in government. If Bill Richardson were the prototypical Democrat, I would likely have to rethink my party affiliation. And if anyone is the heir to Bill Clinton in the Democratic field, it’s Barack Obama, with his tax-and-don’t-spend policies, which are very similar to the former president’s agenda, and which is far more Clintonian than Ms. Rodham’s tax-and-spend liberalism. In fact, Hillary’s attempts to grow government dwarf those of every Republican and most Democrats in the field, proving Dick Morris right when he postulated that Hillary would be our first European-style socialist president.

On the Republican side, Fred Thompson’s record on spending puts the rest of the field to shame, and is even more conservative than that of Newt Gingrich. Perhaps Thompson’s supposed lack of accomplishments in the Senate are the result of a legislator who erred on the side of ensuring that government didn’t grow, didn’t spend more, didn’t meddle more in people’s lives, and generally left Americans alone. In an age of two big-governnment parties, it isn’t surprising that such a candidate is garnering interest.

http://race42008.com/2007/03/24/fiscally-fisking-the-2008-contenders/


22 posted on 03/31/2007 4:07:11 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

Thanks for that analysis. Fred keeps looking better and better.


23 posted on 03/31/2007 4:10:35 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: gulfcoast6

ditto!


24 posted on 03/31/2007 4:12:21 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: traderrob6

>> Net cost of legislative agenda for most recent legislative year

It would be good to see the Fed tax revenue from each of those states.


25 posted on 03/31/2007 4:16:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: ConservativeDude
Compared to the other electable candidates in the race Giuliani to me is our best chance, but if FT throws his hat in, there would be no one better. He brings to bear all the qualities I really like about Giuliani (gravitas, leadership) while bringing to bear unquestionable conservative principles. He is closest thing to the perfect package. If FT jumps in, I would have to with all good conscience switch camps. The whole FT is just trying to help McCain is bupkis, because by merely floating his name out there it is not helping bail out McCains campaign, it is just throwing heaps more water onto the S.S. McCain. I think he is being shrewed and honestly waying not only his chances but what he can bring to the race, and that to me is obvious to me, a unity candidate that can unite all the various camps of our great GOP and lead us and our nation onward to victory!
26 posted on 03/31/2007 4:19:16 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: traderrob6
Thompson looks better and better!

"Dennis Kucinich: $1.87 trillion"

And this is just from one bill! (his universal Medicare bill). What a kook!

27 posted on 03/31/2007 4:24:04 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: dpwiener

Fred has plenty of time.


28 posted on 03/31/2007 4:26:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary, if you want America finished off!)
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To: jellybean; Howlin; STARWISE

One of the most thoughtful, intelligent threads I've read:)

PING!


29 posted on 03/31/2007 4:40:15 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: gulfcoast6

We are ready to donate to Fred Thompson's campaign!


30 posted on 03/31/2007 4:46:45 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: dpwiener
Those are exactly my thoughts, Frudee is self destructing i expect him to begone by the fourth of July, if not sooner.Why spend a nickel, while these other guys beat each other up.
31 posted on 03/31/2007 4:53:10 PM PDT by romano1000
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32 posted on 03/31/2007 4:59:03 PM PDT by jellybean (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT! Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: vortigern

I see the race as follows:

Rudy Guiliani is a vote AGAINST Hilary Clinton, it is not a vote for Guiliani.


the way Fred Thompson is being discussed,

Fred Thompson is a vote FOR Fred Thompson regardless of who is on the side.

I think that will draw more votes than just being anti-Hilary.


33 posted on 03/31/2007 5:06:56 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: traderrob6

I think he is the only potential nominee on the Republican side that doesn't leave a stench in the air. Rudy is more democrat than republican. McCain dances to his own tune and Romney has the appearance of a flip-flopper. The rest of the wannabes just don't have the name recognition to fire up the republican base. If Fred Thompson gets in the race he's definitely my choice. As I recall the last actor to be president did a pretty fair job of running the country. Go Fred!!!


34 posted on 03/31/2007 5:15:07 PM PDT by MadAnthony1776 ("liberalism" = "do as I say, not as I do")
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To: pcottraux

Fred, Fred he's our man!


35 posted on 03/31/2007 5:16:51 PM PDT by stockpirate (Giuliani, McCain and Romney, liberals masquerading as conservatives. Cross dressers if you will.)
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To: longtermmemmory

I've been thinking about this a great deal...wondering what is really going on here. These are what I think the perceptions are of these men.

McCain = unstable, angry, dedicated and driven. Right on SOME issues.

Hunter = stable, smart, decent, and a veteran . Right on the issues.

Romney = brilliant, but...too soon?

Newt = great intellect, articulate, questionable past, solid on issues..

Rudy = ruthless, ambitious, dedicated, hard-working, social liberal..not pleasing to many of "the base".

Fred = American.


36 posted on 03/31/2007 5:25:29 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
Fred=American

Precisely!

And a man of bedrock integrity, which is more than you can say for some of the others. :(

37 posted on 03/31/2007 5:34:13 PM PDT by Graymatter (FRED. The Man of Bedrock!)
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To: Sturm Ruger

"I Like Fred"


38 posted on 03/31/2007 5:38:41 PM PDT by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: Graymatter

Newsweek thinks Fred's in it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17888550/site/newsweek/


39 posted on 03/31/2007 5:38:58 PM PDT by Graymatter (FRED. The Man of Bedrock!)
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To: jellybean

B u m p


40 posted on 03/31/2007 5:48:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary, if you want America finished off!)
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