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Air powered car provides cost savings [watch video]
ISA ^ | 29 March 2007 | n/a

Posted on 03/30/2007 7:17:49 PM PDT by Rick_Michael

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To: WBL 1952
Those pesky details, like keeping the air at minus 100 degree centigrade while it is parked in the hot sun, just keep getting in the way.................. Wonder how much energy would be used by a portable air conditioner hammering away on a tank of air 24/7 trying to keep it from getting above minus 100 degrees centigrade and EXPLODING!!!!!!!!!!!!

And where does the energy to get the air down to -100 degrees in the first place come from? I guarantee that compressed air at -100 degrees costs more than $2 per fill-up.

61 posted on 03/30/2007 8:22:05 PM PDT by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: drlevy88
How about fitting one of these air tanks to a motorcycle

Been done.

62 posted on 03/30/2007 8:27:29 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: WBL 1952

Something doesn't add up here. How do you go from 120psi to 4500 psi without using energy? And how do you extract the energy from the gas to lower its temperature to -100?

Admittedly, I haven't studied my Thermodynamics in years, but a little voice keeps telling me something doesn't fit.


63 posted on 03/30/2007 8:28:26 PM PDT by foghornleghorn
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To: Army Air Corps

If they were to actually invent a true alternate fuel,, one that was equal and as cheap as gas but without pollution, the Dems would attempt to destroy it. None of this is about finding a true alternative. They want destruction of our economy, of our freedom, of our property, our liberty and of our pride. They really do want us riding around on little bicycles or stuffed into trains and buses where we are easier to control and less independent. Meanwhile, they and their Hollywood friends will continue to jet around the world or be chauffeured around in their armored Limos and SUV's. Nothing is about what it seems. It is all really about their boot on our throat.


64 posted on 03/30/2007 8:31:48 PM PDT by freemike
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To: Rodney King

Cost wise. If an electrical car was cheap and reliable (which it isn't), it has a cheaper cost for distance.

Although they go together.


65 posted on 03/30/2007 8:34:17 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: heywaitadarnminute

The air powered car and the two major competitors in the development and marketing of these vehicles has been featured on the Science Channel. The engine is small, simple and efficient. The car seems to perform as advertised.

Again, why would a story about a private company that is developing a new idea, risking it all to see if that idea catches on -- why would that threaten people here. What's up with that?


66 posted on 03/30/2007 8:35:05 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: freemike

Some are more equal than others, eh commrade. ;-)

I agree. The Dems have often stood in the way of viable energy policies while consuming conspicuosly. It is okay for Algore to consume 20 times as much energy as the national average, but if one of the "proles" buys an SUV, then they are to be pilloried.


67 posted on 03/30/2007 8:37:08 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: freedomlover
...cover about 124 miles, or eight hours of travel...

Anyone else do the math? Apparently at max-endurance, the speed is about 15 mph... ??? 68 mph is probably the "sprint" speed, but no-doubt trains the air tank in nothing flat...

68 posted on 03/30/2007 8:37:49 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: foghornleghorn

You're right there's no way 2 minutes worth of compressed air from a filling station tire hose is going to be able to pack the kind of energy needed to make a car go. That's maybe a 2 horsepower compressor. 2 horsepower for 2 minutes, will barely get it down the block.


69 posted on 03/30/2007 8:38:54 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Rick_Michael

Bet it is really cute with the Weebles in it.

It would actually be dandy for me...

As long as one of my labs doesn't carry it off to chew on it.


70 posted on 03/30/2007 8:39:52 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Heus, hic nos omnes in agmine sunt! Deo volente rivoque non adsurgente)
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To: Rick_Michael

The new French car ... "Le Fart" car! With attachments for your nail gun and die grinder!

And for those who own the Toyota Prius (and other electric P.T. Barnum machines)... I hope your happy about destroying Subdury Ontario with your nickel batteries.

http://omidr.typepad.com/torque/2007/03/toyotas_prius_i.html


71 posted on 03/30/2007 8:40:39 PM PDT by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDeuce = John Browning's gift to freedom))
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To: Rodney King

However you want to look at it.

I think we need to (sorry about the cliche) "think outside the box".

Look, as long as no one is forcing me to buy products I don't want...and as long as there are companies out there who want to get rich providing me with products I do want...

...who cares what the go juice is called?


72 posted on 03/30/2007 8:40:43 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: aligncare
I think we need to (sorry about the cliche) "think outside the box".

You are missing the point. This defies basic physics. It is designed entirely to prey on people who are overly hopeful, like, no offense, yourself. It is basic physics that is defied here.

73 posted on 03/30/2007 8:44:13 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: HighWheeler
"Air powered = coal powered."

I had to scan the posts to see who would get to the root of the problem first.



West Virginia coal beats the living crap out of terrorist oil.

If this or anything else helps end our financing the mohammedan murderers, I'm all for it.
74 posted on 03/30/2007 8:45:04 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: drlevy88
If a tank was ruptured in a wreck, you'd get a heckuva POP! No fire, but it would shrapnel everything within hundreds of yards.

"Mythbusters" put that one to rest on their shark-themed show. If you shoot a tank of compressed air you get a lot of wind and a tank with a bullet hole in it.

75 posted on 03/30/2007 8:47:21 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: stinkerpot65

"If this takes off, I wonder what state governments will do for tax revenue?"

The States will increase registration costs and probably require some sort of meter, or GPS tracking device on your vehicle to tax you for your mileage use of State roads.


76 posted on 03/30/2007 8:50:08 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Rick_Michael
Cost wise. If an electrical car was cheap and reliable (which it isn't), it has a cheaper cost for distance. Although they go together.

Well, that depends really on the cost of the electricity used to charge the car.

77 posted on 03/30/2007 8:54:02 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

Two companies are developing the car. One Australian, the other, French. The French company has sold an order to Mexico City for taxis and other fleet vehicles.

They can't defy physics if they are in production, can they?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/992431.stm


78 posted on 03/30/2007 8:55:02 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: aligncare

"You've got to loosen up a bit."

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I'm having fun, but you really have your panties in a bunch.


I would love to see a Magic Energy Supply Solution that actually works efficiently, but none in the last 30 years have stuck.

Solar panels on your house; those windmill energy sources that produce a fickle output but effciently kill thousands of birds; electric vehicles that wind up being disposal and economic disasters at the end of their lives; biodiesel from fast food restaurants oil that is likely THE most limited fuel supply on Earth at a greater processing economic loss than gasoline; ethanol production that works decently with sugarcane* but still carries huge lost overhead costs for planting, harvesting, conversion, separation, and shipping, and still only has 62% of the BTU's (at a far lower temperture) per gallon compared to gasoline , etc, etc, etc.

Nothing beats oil, coal or nukular.


(*Adding up the energy costs of corn production and its conversion into ethanol, 131,000 BTUs are needed to make one gallon of ethanol. One gallon of ethanol has an energy value of only 77,000 BTUS. Thus, 70 percent more energy is required to produce ethanol than the energy that actually is in it. Every time you make one gallon of ethanol, there is a net energy loss of 54,000 BTUs.)


Am I still full of myself, aligncare?


79 posted on 03/30/2007 8:58:32 PM PDT by HighWheeler (A true liberal today is a combination of socialist, fascist, hypocrite, and anti-American.)
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To: Dog Gone

Well I guess from that photo that the C6 Corvette is now history. You'll put your eye out with that thing.


80 posted on 03/30/2007 8:58:33 PM PDT by Sender (All warfare is based on deception.)
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