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Air powered car provides cost savings [watch video]
ISA ^ | 29 March 2007 | n/a

Posted on 03/30/2007 7:17:49 PM PDT by Rick_Michael

29 March 2007

Air powered car provides cost savings

A car with an air-compressed engine will be able to drive around 124 miles or eight hours for just under $2.

The OneCAT, created by Moteur Development International (MDI) Founder Guy Nègre, can reach a speed of 68 mph and can cover about 124 miles, or eight hours of travel, which is more than double the road coverage of an electric car. When recharging the tank, the car needs to connect to an outlet for three to four hours or attach to an air pump at a gas station for two minutes.

Economy and the ecological benefits are the main advantages for the client since the car´s maintenance cost is 10 times less than that of a gasoline-powered car.

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MDI’s OneCAT

The vehicle (www.theaircar.com) gets its power from 90 cubic meters of compressed air stored in fiber tanks. The expansion of air pushes the pistons and creates movement. The atmospheric temperature re-heats the engine and increases the road coverage. The air conditioning system makes use of the expelled cold air. Due to the absence of combustion and the fact there is no pollution, the oil change (one liter of vegetable oil) is only necessary every 31,000 miles.

At the moment, MDI has four models, a car, a taxi (five passengers), a pick-up truck, and a van. The final selling price will be $10,800 (£5,500).

MDI, founded in Luxembourg, based in the south of France, with commercial offices in Barcelona, has researched and developed the Air Car over 10 years, and the technology has more than 30 international patents.

MDI already signed with 50 factories in Europe, America, and Asia. The company is offering 20 licenses in the U.K. as exclusive manufacturing areas for cars as well as offering other licenses in the nautical and public transport sectors.

The company just signed a deal with Tata Motors in India to develop a new and cost-saving technology for applications for the Indian market.

The company is initially looking to produce 3,000 cars each year, with 70 staff working one eight-hour shift a day.

MDI developed two technologies to meet different needs. One is the single energy compressed air engines, and the other is dual energy compressed air plus fuel engines

The single energy engines will be available in Minicats and Citycats. These engines are for use in the city use, where the maximum speed is lower and the need for an environmentally safer car is greater.

The duel energy engine, on the other hand, can see use in the city, but also the open road. The engines will work exclusively with compressed air while it is running under 50 km/h in urban areas. When the car hits speeds over 50 km/h, the engines will switch to fuel mode. The engine will be able to use gasoline, gas oil, bio diesel, gas, liquidized gas, ecological fuel, and alcohol.

The engine types will be available with two, four, and six cylinders. When the air tanks are empty, the driver will be able to switch to fuel mode, thanks to the car’s on board computer.

This engine (for more information, click on www.theaircar.com/howitworks.html) has four two-stage pistons, i.e. eight compression and/or expansion chambers. They have two functions: to compress ambient air and refill the storage tanks; and to make successive expansions (reheating air with ambient thermal energy) thereby approaching isothermic expansion.

Its steering wheel is equipped with a 5kW electric moto-alternator. This motor acts as the:

No clutch is necessary. The engine is idle when the car is stationary, and the vehicle starts via the magnetic plate which re-engages the compressed air. The electric motor allows for the parking capabilities.

For related information, go to www.isa.org/manufacturing_automation.

Watch video below


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aircar; airpower; alternatives; energy; globalwarming; petro; transportation
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To: Rick_Michael
There was a thread posted about this vehicle a couple of weeks ago, I think

My comment then was the same as my comment now: with the pressures inside that compressed air tank, if you get into a collision, you can write off the car, the driver, the passengers, and anybody else within a block of that bomb

141 posted on 03/31/2007 6:35:22 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: Rick_Michael

90% of my driving is back and forth to my office.

There are occasional short trips during the day and sporatic errands on the way home.

It's cheap, doesn't use much gas and is big enough to not be dangerous.

An ideal commuter-car.


142 posted on 03/31/2007 6:43:33 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: WhiteGuy
Ok, so they're really ugly.

I don't care. I'm through paying inflated prices and escalating taxes for the privilege of buying gasoline.

143 posted on 03/31/2007 6:46:42 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: AZLiberty
What are the compressors going to do with all the heat generated? Compressing air at 20 deg C to 300 atmospheres results in a temperature of about 1200 deg C.

Like you and I said, home heating. Interestingly, if your formula is correct, which I believe it is, compressing the air generates about the same heat as a gasoline engine does when it runs.

And what is the car going to do with all the cold "generated"? With this engine sucking up so much heat, the air conditioner will practically free to run. Could be a great car for Arizona -- or at least a replacement for some of the golf carts I see around here.

The air coming out of the tanks is about negative 10 degrees, great for air conditioning. And you are right, the hotter the climate the better this could work. I also envision it in Golf cart type vehicles, good for 50 miles or so.

144 posted on 03/31/2007 7:05:25 AM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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To: wodinoneeye
Line loss on power lines can be as much as 90%. (From those CO2 belching fossil fuel plants that generate the electricity required) ???

Maybe if you are using DC over long distances. AC is very efficient, especially at the higher voltages.

145 posted on 03/31/2007 7:13:02 AM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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To: Rick_Michael

How safe is that tank in a crash?


146 posted on 03/31/2007 8:36:28 AM PDT by sionnsar (?trad-anglican.faithweb.com?|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: WBL 1952
Hi, this is a reply to your private message: and the fact that those firefighter tanks are under such pressure (2200 to 4500) means they have to be inspected at least every three years and replaced if they fail and mind you those tanks endure nowhere near the use these would. we are talking about everyday use, wear and tear, accidents, and the need for safely refilling by your average joe maybe as often as every day.

Luxfer manufactures all the cylinders my academy uses. They have a five year hydro test. I've been in fires that melted my visor, which happens around 600 degrees, with no damage to the SCBA cylinder. Most people no longer have any idea of what goes on in their cars, so maintenance is done by personnel with special training. There would have to be stations set up with quick connects and an interlock mechanism to keep the air from being discharged unless the connection was made properly, but this is all standard, off the shelf technology.

I can't speak to what the actual costs of operating such a vehicle would be, but I don't find the air compression technology to be any more risky than air bags or gasoline tanks.

147 posted on 03/31/2007 8:46:47 AM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Erasmus; Dog Gone; thackney; BOBTHENAILER
Poppycock! Look at all the time, energy and expense expended just to compress air into that unnatural condition!!!

I'm all for new and useful ideas/inventions, but nearly all of these "alternative energy" scams are really getting boring, almost to the point of insulting the average person's intelligence!!!

148 posted on 03/31/2007 9:02:43 AM PDT by SierraWasp (CA is pleagued with a GANG-GREENOUS REPELLICAN GOVERNOR!!! He's worsened the Gray Davis' MESS!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
C'mon, you can see yourself driving one of those rootin' tootin' cartoon cars!


149 posted on 03/31/2007 10:02:27 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: sionnsar

"How safe is that tank in a crash?"

Leave it to sionnsar to ask the Big Question !


150 posted on 03/31/2007 10:47:48 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary, if you want America finished off!)
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To: stinkerpot65
Who cares about Carbon. The cost savings would be phenomenal, not to mention reshaping global politics. We could nuke Iran with no worries.

Not only do I not care about my carbon footprint (except that I try to make it as large as possible), but I also don't buy that we should drive golf carts for "cost savings" or re-shaping global politics. Here's an idea - screw the liberals and go drill in Alaska and the Florida Coast and all the other places that we're not supposed to, and build more refineries and develop our own oil resources instead.

Jag!


151 posted on 03/31/2007 11:05:32 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Dog Gone

Hay! Yew caught the essence of the whole issue and my commentary upon it in a delightful demonstrative graphic, Mr. Gone!!! Yew bees a winnur!!!


152 posted on 03/31/2007 11:57:46 AM PDT by SierraWasp (CA is pleagued with a GANG-GREENOUS REPELLICAN GOVERNOR!!! He's worsened the Gray Davis' MESS!!!)
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To: stinkerpot65
In two weeks, someone in New Orelans will shoot at one of these cars, hiting the tank. The result will be the first flying car. Consumer Reports and Dateline N-BS will crash test it, rigging the tanks to blow up with disasterous consequences.

In all seriousness, A 114ci tank @ 4500psi could fly half a mile or more in the air.

153 posted on 03/31/2007 12:11:09 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: SauronOfMordor

I'd watch the video.


154 posted on 03/31/2007 1:26:47 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: Captainpaintball

I used to play paintball...but this car size and you need to watch the video. Would you shoot a regular car tank, either?

People used to say the same complaint for modern day cars, but for the most part that's not the biggest concern.

I'd say the biggest concern is: does it work? That's why I say...if it's commercially viable, then it's worth paying attention to. At this point, it's mostly an idea adopted by a big Indian company. But then again, many corporate companies advertise bad ideas e.g Corn ethanol idea by GM.


155 posted on 03/31/2007 1:31:10 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: Rick_Michael; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown

Ping me if you find one I've missed.


more NRPT tech (without mention of where the original source of energy is == fossil fuels)
156 posted on 03/31/2007 1:33:36 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Rick_Michael
At the moment, MDI has four models, a car, a taxi (five passengers)...

A car with a range of only “about 124 miles, or eight hours of travel” would be OK for the city commuter, but a taxi? When I drove a cab, 300 or 400 miles a days was common.
To get the 124 miles, speed would be restricted to 15 mph?

157 posted on 03/31/2007 1:42:26 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Rick_Michael
Oh, I agree with you. Especially with your point about the ethanol. But liberal luddites, specifically in Consumer Reports AND the legal profession will try and hype up (or is that down?) this "strange, new" technology.
158 posted on 03/31/2007 1:48:31 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: stephenjohnbanker
"How safe is that tank in a crash?"
Leave it to sionnsar to ask the Big Question !

Well, there's a lot of energy stored there. They do note that the carbon fiber tanks would disintegrate without creating shrapnel, but at almost 2200 psi I'm sure even the disintegrating tank is a concern.

159 posted on 03/31/2007 2:22:37 PM PDT by sionnsar (?trad-anglican.faithweb.com?|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: SierraWasp
"Get outa here with that boom boom boom, before I call the cops!"

The moral of this story is,
if you're out on the beach
you see a compessed-air pow'rd car
and it's within your reach
Don't ever stop and drive it off
that's my advice to youuuuuu
...Cause....
you'll never get rid of that *boom boom boom*
no matter what you do!

Awhile back Tata Oonsultancy ran a series of ads
trying for the low end auto market
advertising "two for the price of one"
(they must have been inspired by computer programmers).

There was a flurry of ads about "bodacious Tatas".

This time, will they talk about how the cars blow?

Cheers!

160 posted on 03/31/2007 2:29:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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