Posted on 03/29/2007 7:21:40 AM PDT by pissant
Sean Hannity Interview, 2007:
HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?
GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
From a 2000 interview with Tim Russert:
Tim Russert: How about registration of ALL handguns?
Rudy Giuliani: Uh, you know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times, talking about, uh, the program that the president (Clinton) talked about in his state of the union speech - I have been giving speeches about and talked about on your show for the last 10 to 15 years. Which is, I believe, is that we should treat the possession of a handgun the way we treat driving an automobile.
And therefore a person who wants to possess a handgun should pass a written test, should be able to pass a physical test in the actual use of the gun, and should have to demonstrate good moral character and a REASON to have the gun.
That those should be, essentially there should be a UNIFORM LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS that says that every state has to administer that, the way we say that we're not going to let you drive an automobile if you're too young, we're not going let you drive an automobile if you had a bad record, and uh, every state has a slightly different variation of that, but every state has a uniform law that guarantees our safety. I think the two things are good analogies, and I've been arguing for that since at least 1980.
I used to think the biggest flaw of living in a major city is that it trains you to hate people. Now I realize that the biggest flaw of living in a major city is that it turns people into freaking morons.
Source: New York Times
Hannity has always been an idiot. He's a lousy American.
Young kids? I wonder if maybe he'd support a law that kept the father of young kids from walking out on them for one of his Ho's. no that Rudy would do that. He loves his kids. Really.
Maybe people are misunderstanding Rudy, maybe he does not want to keep guns away from any kids but his own?
Ice-T.
The judges would have also accepted the movie Colors.
"Tell me right now, if it's between Hillary! and Rudy, what are you going to do? Teach us a lesson?"
Vote my conscience. I will never vote against liberty or for the murder of unborn children. What are the RINOs going to do, teach me a lesson for not supporting them last time? We The republic survived 8 years of Clinton before. We can survive it again. Like I said - I will always vote my conscience.
Did we now? I'll remember that the next time I go to the observation deck of the World Trade Center.
"Oh, you already answered my question. What you'll get is Hillary! and an all dem congress, way to go, what principles!"
As opposed to Hillary Lite (though he looks better in a dress) and a compliant congress? No thank you.
You get points for being mildly amusing but even though W isn't perfect and is way far from a conservative but we did get two decent Supreme Court justices unless they go nuts like they all seem to do once they're on the bench (Souter anyone)?
"By watering the tree of liberty you mean to spill blood, are you signing up for the resistance or are you just a keyboard commando?"
If they come for my arms, you'll hear about it, unless it's drowned out by the noise of all others who won't give up theirs, either.
They're not getting mine either, luckily I have several that were purchased before the registration requirements kicked in (I live in Arnoldville).
Now, allow to undermine my own argument because Arnold is a good case for not voting in a RINO. He's gotten things through Grey Davis would never have gotten through and he's got an r after his name.
Let me put this simply, Hillary! is an extremely dangerous person and God help us if she becomes president.
This is one of the most idiotic excuses for Giuliani's totalitarian approach to government that I've ever seen. On one hand you have Hannity laying out the excuse for Giuliani (and Giuliani going right along with it) that Giuliani "inherited all these gun laws," while at the same time you have Giuliani claiming that 2,000 people were getting murdered in New York City every year before he took office.
Using this rationale, I think it is safe to say that the city's strict gun control laws were the one factor that HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the decline in New York City's murder rates.
Archives of the Mayor's Press Office
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Date: Tuesday, June 20, 2000
MAYOR GIULIANI AND SPEAKER VALLONE ANNOUNCE CITY LAWSUIT AGAINST GUN INDUSTRY
Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and City Council Speaker Peter F. Vallone, joined by Corporation Counsel Michael Hess, today announced that the City of New York has filed a lawsuit against two dozen major gun manufacturers and distributors. The suit alleges a number of illegal practices conducted by the gun industry, including:
Deliberately manufacturing many more firearms than can be bought for legitimate purposes such as hunting and law enforcement, and knowingly targeting these excess guns to criminals, youths and other persons unqualified to buy firearms;
Deliberately undermining New York City's gun control laws by flooding markets with looser gun laws with firearms that the manufacturers know are destined to be illegally resold in New York City;
Ignoring the illegal practices of gun distributors, many of whom openly engage in the above practices;
Refusing to manufacture safer guns, with such features as trigger locks and "personalization" measures that allow only authorized persons to fire the weapon.
"This is an industry that is profiting from the suffering of innocent people," Mayor Giuliani said. "What's worse, its profits rest on a number of illegal and immoral practices. This lawsuit is meant to end the free pass that the gun industry has so long enjoyed."
Council Speaker Vallone said, "More than 30,000 people, including 4,200 children, die every year in the U.S. from firearms-more people than in any other country in the world. I join with the Mayor in this lawsuit to send a message to gun manufacturers that New York City will hold them accountable for their reckless and irresponsible practices."
The suit seeks an as yet unspecified amount of damages for the many ways in which these illegal practices and illegal guns harm New York City and its residents-including, for instance, the $17 million per year spent by the City Health and Hospitals Corporation treating gunshot wounds.
Defendants named in the suit include most major gun manufacturers, distributors and dealers currently operating the United States, or who export large numbers of guns to the United States.
Plaintiffs in the lawsuit are the City of New York, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, City Council Speaker Peter F. Vallone, and the Health and Hospitals Corporation. The suit was filed in the United States District Court, Eastern District of New York.
Well said.
It does not get more vile than that.
I agree with you. Hope he's reading this thread today. LOL.
Sounded a bit like Sally Fields at the Oscars. LOL
"IT WORKED"
Oh, well.
Freedom is overrated, anyway.
And you know that I have a problem.
"Did we now? I'll remember that the next time I go to the observation deck of the World Trade Center."
We lost some buildings and some people. The nation is still here.
"Let me put this simply, Hillary! is an extremely dangerous person and God help us if she becomes president."
I'm more worried about Rudy as President. The linguini spined GOP in Congress will at least make a show of fighting Hillary.
He will never get what the 2A is about.
No, he swears he will not interfere with the "rights of hunters".
bump for Hunter/Thompson!
We lost some buildings and some people. The nation is still here.
Yeah, no big deal. What about next time?
"Let me put this simply, Hillary! is an extremely dangerous person and God help us if she becomes president."
I'm more worried about Rudy as President. The linguini spined GOP in Congress will at least make a show of fighting Hillary.
Now that's just silly. Rudy is going to be worse than Hillary!, really?
"Yeah, no big deal. What about next time?"
What about it?
"Now that's just silly. Rudy is going to be worse than Hillary!, really?"
No it isn't. You yourself made the Arnold argument. He got things passed Davis never could, because of his R. Rudy could do the same. If Hillary beat him, the GOP congress would play opposition politics.
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