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Giuliani is a Liar (vanity)
Various | 3/29/07 | Pissant/various

Posted on 03/29/2007 7:21:40 AM PDT by pissant

Sean Hannity Interview, 2007:

HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?

GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...

HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?

GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.

So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.

From a 2000 interview with Tim Russert:

Tim Russert: How about registration of ALL handguns?

Rudy Giuliani: Uh, you know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times, talking about, uh, the program that the president (Clinton) talked about in his state of the union speech - I have been giving speeches about and talked about on your show for the last 10 to 15 years. Which is, I believe, is that we should treat the possession of a handgun the way we treat driving an automobile.

And therefore a person who wants to possess a handgun should pass a written test, should be able to pass a physical test in the actual use of the gun, and should have to demonstrate good moral character and a REASON to have the gun.

That those should be, essentially there should be a UNIFORM LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS that says that every state has to administer that, the way we say that we're not going to let you drive an automobile if you're too young, we're not going let you drive an automobile if you had a bad record, and uh, every state has a slightly different variation of that, but every state has a uniform law that guarantees our safety. I think the two things are good analogies, and I've been arguing for that since at least 1980.


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To: somemoreequalthanothers

No, I'm series. Jim Robinson posted to someone and I'm assuming he knew they were in the GOP. He said something about "run a lib for the GOP at their own peril". If the GOP runs a lib, democrats will win. Run two libs in this environment, with the scandals our own party has brought forth, there will be no contest.


321 posted on 03/29/2007 5:50:47 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: azhenfud
Ha...that would be gutsy to do, but why not? Judge Silberman was brilliant in his decision, so why not try it in NYC? Silberman's point was simple (I'm paraphrasing here): If men with the genius of Madison and Adams only wanted the state militias to be armed, they would have said just that, and no more. But they did not; they went on, "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

The most excellent judge goes on to say that if "the people" here in the Second, only means people in the collective sense, it would be the only time that "people" were EVER meant in the collective rather than the individual sense in the whole Constitution.

Game, set, match.

322 posted on 03/29/2007 5:53:18 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: ozarkgirl
Barak Obama has no chance whatsoever to be elected this cycle. None.

If he's the nominee, God willing, we can run whoever we want.

323 posted on 03/29/2007 5:53:33 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

Your faith in ears obama is similar to mine.


324 posted on 03/29/2007 5:54:46 PM PDT by pissant (The new Fred Astaire: Rudy Rodham Bloomberg)
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To: neocon1984

Mine in MO took a week but then we have a fantastic conservative for a Governor. Matt Blunt.

Who is your Governor, I think I've read about him, pro illegal immigrants if I'm not mistaken.


325 posted on 03/29/2007 5:54:47 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: MtnClimber

If the laws do not change in the northeast, I will move. Pennsylvania and Virginia (esp. VA) have good attitudes towards handguns, and I will move when I can.


326 posted on 03/29/2007 5:57:21 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: pissant; somemoreequalthanothers

What? You really think Hillary will be the nominee?


327 posted on 03/29/2007 5:59:07 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: pissant

I think America would have no problem electing a black president, but not one with a muslim name spouting left wing rhetoric.


328 posted on 03/29/2007 5:59:38 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: ozarkgirl

The race isn't necessarily limited to those two yet. I'm a Rudy fan, but it's way too early to crown anybody, although it's looking very good for him up to this point.


329 posted on 03/29/2007 6:01:22 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: ozarkgirl

Hillary or Algore or Richardson. Edwards and Obama are the lightest of lightweights.


330 posted on 03/29/2007 6:01:24 PM PDT by pissant (The new Fred Astaire: Rudy Rodham Bloomberg)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

Colin Powell would do very well. A black, big eared, socialist, never.


331 posted on 03/29/2007 6:03:11 PM PDT by pissant (The new Fred Astaire: Rudy Rodham Bloomberg)
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To: veronica

332 posted on 03/29/2007 6:04:44 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Pharmboy
I will move. Pennsylvania and Virginia (esp. VA) have good attitudes towards handguns, and I will move when I can.

Careful. The part of PA I live in is beautiful country, but the taxes in this state really suck.

It is a gun friendly place in spite of the blue-state status.

333 posted on 03/29/2007 6:06:10 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: pissant

I think Al will go Green Party, he's done. Hillary, possible. Don't keep up on Dem candidates. Who is Richardson?

All I know is went to the bookstore the other day, please understand, I live in a totally Repub environment, you have one candidate running for locals for every office and they are all Pub's, but in the bookstore, it's all Obama's books. He's well published. Still say he'll be a contender.


334 posted on 03/29/2007 6:08:08 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
GO find the quotes and get back to me, or just keep going and don't come back.

Works for me. Why must we suffer liars? I guess their choice of a candidate reflects their own personal values, or lack thereof.

335 posted on 03/29/2007 6:08:13 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Hildy
AARRGGHHHHHHH...can you guys please please, I beg you, come up with something other than Hitler as an analogy...it's SOOOOOOOO boring.

If that analogy bores you, then that might be your problem. You are taking your freedom for granted if you think what happened to the Germans can't happen right here in the good ol' USA.

Here is another saying that probably bores you - Freedom isn't free, you have to continually fight for it, not just on the battlefield, but on the homefront,too.

336 posted on 03/29/2007 6:08:36 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: pissant
Colin Powell would do very well.

The guy is so "between parties" in his thinking I don't think either would nominate him. Maybe the democrats, as far as I'm concerned he burnt his Republican bridge.

337 posted on 03/29/2007 6:08:54 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: ozarkgirl

Rod Blagojovic ran as a moderate Dem after the George Ryan fiasco. George was corrupt and the worst sort of RINO.

Of course, Rod is preparing us for a massive tax hike. I don't expect the gun laws to change as the SCOTUS will soon declare an individual right to ownership under the 2nd Amendment.


338 posted on 03/29/2007 6:10:46 PM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

I am now in Jersey...I love aspects of this state, but the taxes and gun laws are dreadful. At least in PA, they are reasonable with guns.


339 posted on 03/29/2007 6:11:07 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: neocon1984

"And the practical difference is ...what?

I own handguns and had to have a (Illinois) license that took about a month to get. What is the issue?"

The difference is you should not have to get a license to participate in a right.

I live in FL which is one of the better states as far as gun laws and I don't like theirs either. 3 day wait, license to carry etc.


340 posted on 03/29/2007 6:13:55 PM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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