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Dr. James Dobson: Fred Thompson 'Not a Christian'
NewsMax.Com ^ | Wednesday, March 28, 2007

Posted on 03/28/2007 2:36:11 PM PDT by SubGeniusX

Focus on the Family founder James Dobson has dealt a potentially devastating blow to Fred Thompson’s presidential aspirations, saying the former senator is not a Christian.

"Everyone knows he’s conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for,” Dobson – considered the most politically powerful evangelical figure in the U.S. – said in a phone call to Dan Gilgoff, senior editor at U.S. News & World Report.

"[But] I don’t think he’s a Christian. At least that’s my impression.”

Thompson’s spokesman Mark Corallo took issue with the statement.

"Thompson is indeed a Christian,” he said. "He was baptized into the Church of Christ.”

Focus on Family spokesman Gary Schneeberger sought to clarify Dobson’s statement, telling Gilgoff that while Dobson didn’t believe Thompson belonged to a non-Christian faith, he "has never known Thompson to be a committed Christian – someone who openly talks about his faith.

"We use that word – Christian – to refer to people who are evangelical Christians. Dobson wasn’t expressing a personal opinion about his reaction to a Thompson candidacy.”

Thompson has said he is leaving the door open for a presidential run. A Gallup-USA Today poll released on Tuesday has the Tennessee Republican running third behind Rudolph Giuliani and John McCain among Republicans and Republican-leaning voters.

Although Dobson has not endorsed any Republican presidential candidate, he told Gilgoff that former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was the "brightest guy out there” and "the most articulate politicians on the scene today.”

Gilgoff is the author of the new book "The Jesus Machine: How James Dobson, Focus on the Family, and Evangelical America Are Winning the Culture War.”

In the 2004 race, Dobson gave the first public presidential endorsement of his career, supporting George Bush. Bush got almost 6 million new white evangelical votes in 2004 that he didn’t get in 2000.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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To: SubGeniusX

201 posted on 03/28/2007 6:44:28 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.virginiaisforrudy.com * http://wardsmythe.com * http://www.rudyblogs.com)
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To: pissant

>I have no idea what Dobson yaks about most of the time. I'm RC, so I don't pay him or falwell or any televangelist any attention.<



You might give Dr. Charles Stanley a try though, pissant. He's not RC, but he is very Biblical.


202 posted on 03/28/2007 6:44:39 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: RJS1950
"A history buff and one who believes in strict construction when it comes to the constitution. "

So certain "unalienable rights" in our D of I are no longer? I would say that the Liberty we have been given by God allows me to vote my conscience which is driven, not by my "religion" but by my faith so I think I will vote and probably along the same lines as you.
203 posted on 03/28/2007 6:45:31 PM PDT by Montana4Jesus
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To: Paperdoll

I prefer arguing with the protestants here on FR's religion forum. :o)


204 posted on 03/28/2007 6:45:54 PM PDT by pissant (Gimme a beer, wench.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Committee for Nehmiah Scudder in 2012

Sign me up for the revolt early.

205 posted on 03/28/2007 6:56:24 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken, Cobb County, Georgia, USA!)
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To: Clemenza
"Neither is Rudy Giuliani. Rudy doesn't have the balls to say what his real faith is."

Not bad, it took a while for the Rudy bashers to get in a Thompson thread. BTW, hypocrisy is not a Rudy trait.
206 posted on 03/28/2007 6:58:54 PM PDT by Gop1040
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To: higgmeister
Sign me up for the revolt early.

I'm in.
207 posted on 03/28/2007 7:02:22 PM PDT by SubGeniusX ("Bob" Sold it! I Bought it! That Settles it!)
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To: IslandJeff

To: SubGeniusX

A fellow Frederalist has pointed out that I could have chosen a much more appropriate verse from Matthew. And so, upon his advice, I have revised my e-mail to Dr. Dobson, replacing Matt. 7:21 with Matt 6:1...

Dear Dr. Dobson,

With all due respect, sir, the oath you took when you became a physician would serve you as well in the political world as in the medical: "First, do no harm."

In addition, I believe the job of sorting us all out and determining who among us are the "real" Christians and who are the "cultists" has already been claimed by the Almighty as His own. If you feel that somehow you are better qualified to perform that task, I suggest you take the matter up with Him.

I believe it is customary to end such missives as this with a quotation from Holy scripture. I have chosen Matthew 6:1- "Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven."

And this personal note - Real Christians walk the walk and are concerned with their own faith, sir. Pompous ones bloviate about the faith (or the perceived lack of it) of others.

Sincerely,

- Ruger

Now to e-mail it to the good doctor...

Oh, btw, this Frederalist lives just a few blocks from Focus on the Family, Doc Dobson's HQ. He said he visited them today, that they are getting bombarded by phone calls from Fredheads who are less than amused by what Dobson had to say about Fred's faith...


208 posted on 03/28/2007 7:04:18 PM PDT by Josh Painter (Draft Fred Thompson: the grassroots "surge that will transform the Republican race." - The Hill)
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To: Petronski
On the other hand if Dobson isn't a baptised member of the Church of Christ he isn't any kind of Christian at all (according to the old boys in the C of C).

Depends on what kind of "mouthbreathing" you want eh?!

209 posted on 03/28/2007 7:05:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MaestroLC
BTW, at the moment the "majority of Christians" are Roman Catholic, so it's pretty much understood that ONLY THE POPE speaks for all those guys.

On the other hand, the Pentecostals are pulling even with the RCs, and just about anybody who wishes speaks for them.

Dobson is part of a small minority of mainstream Protestants ~ Thompson's own church is part of an even smaller minority that could be inside or outside the mainstream ~ depending on whether or not the congregation voted on his eligibility for baptism into that group.

Church of Christ in Tennessee is pretty much like that ~ so it would be interesting to find out just which version/brand/group Thompson's family chose for him to join, or he could even be a member of the reconstituted and renamed "Puritan" denomination. In that case I'd wonder why he bothered joining up with them in Tennessee. That would be truly strange.

210 posted on 03/28/2007 7:13:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HungarianGypsy

Could be your judgment of what is "Christ like" is in error.


211 posted on 03/28/2007 7:15:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
The most conservative sort of C of C congregations select from the "elect", which means you have to be born into a family whose members belong. Then, at age 11 or 12 or thereabouts you might be selected for baptism.

The less conservative congregations pretty much demand a non-Baptist background ~ maybe something like the independent Christian Church or even Disciples of Christ ~ so that you can be considered to be a Christian in the tradition of Stone or Campbell.

I'd like to know if Thompson's church had musical instruments, or was "non instrumental".

212 posted on 03/28/2007 7:19:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Ronald Reagan was Disciples of Christ, as was Lyndon Johnson, and a whole host of other Presidents in the past. Even Abe Lincoln's parents were "Primitive Baptists" which is the same as D of C except they met/meet on Saturday.


213 posted on 03/28/2007 7:21:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mariabush

Depends on which group using this particualr title. We need more information to figure this one out.


214 posted on 03/28/2007 7:26:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Suzy Quzy
There's nothing whatsoever "dangerous" about it. Everybody signed the Treaty of Westphalia.

So far everyone has adhered to it (outside of the Eastern churches who weren't part of the 30 years war).

215 posted on 03/28/2007 7:30:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fish hawk
Do any of you actually know what a real Christian is? I do.

Well don't hold back...tell us. Do you buy Newt's last-minute "repentance"?

216 posted on 03/28/2007 7:31:30 PM PDT by montag813
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To: SubGeniusX

Another Litmus test.

No wonder conservatives lose. They have people like Dobson doing their thinking for them.


217 posted on 03/28/2007 7:31:53 PM PDT by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: SE Mom
He managed to insult millions of Christians (other-than-evangelican)in one fell-swoop, didn't he?

I don't think so. It sounds like this person from US News was asking Dobson's opinion, and Dobson gave it. From the article it doesn't sound like Dobson was saying that no Christian should vote for Thompson, or that he wasn't qualified to be President.

While I think Dobson should phrase his opinions better, I don't see this as a huge issue. The only thing I see as an issue is the Republicans on this thread eager to buy the worst possible ideas about a good man and trash a good man and his great service.

I fear the libs will win the next election. Not because they have a better candidate, but because the Republican nominees will distance themselves from the grass roots evangelical conservative voters.

Sincerely
218 posted on 03/28/2007 7:32:48 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: Richard Kimball

Anything associated with Huffington Post is certainly questionable.


219 posted on 03/28/2007 7:34:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SubGeniusX
Just another reason to like Fred Thompson.

He didn't suck up to that egotistical sack of crap James (Bow-down-to-me)Dobson!
220 posted on 03/28/2007 7:34:35 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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